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Why was the deputy pulling the gun on Bobby?


Did Jacques set him up? Which would make no sense.

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The deputy was just as crooked as the Sheriff Cable in my opinion. It's quite likely that he had a deal worked out with Jacques to rub out Bobby seeing as how there was an issue of money owed.

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Quite so, as the poster news---I-forgot-the-rest said. The sense could be as in the old expression, cutting one's losses, either concerning money or the predictability of one's risky lines of business. Uncontrolled risk is a loss to some people.

Jacques could have made the set-up on his own account, or for Leo. Bobby didn't know that Leo and Jacques were sometime partners until later, so they could hope to sneak up on him. Also, even before he found out about Shelly I think Leo might have had an added incentive to get Bobby.



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Bobby: Who's that? Is there someone with you?
Leo: Never mind, toss it over here, quarterback.
--Episode 2, Twin Peaks.

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The deputy was working undercover as a drug dealer to bust potencial buyers in the area. That would explain why he was carrying baby laxative instead of real cocaine (watch the Missing Pieces). He pulled the gun to bust Bobby and Laura but Bobby shot him.

Jacques wouldn't send a potencial buyer of his drug to a set up. He assumed the deputy was a real dealer.

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A murder setup, not a drug sting. The fake drugs, if in fact they were meant to be fake, could have been misplaced overinsurance by the none-too-bright deputy, of the same sort that led to the worsening mess left behind by Joe in the Mulholland Drive office scene.


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Emory Battis: Look, I don't want to lose my job.

Black Rose (a little laugh): Honey, if this doesn't work,
you'll lose a lot more than your job.
--Twin Peaks.

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An undercover cop posing as a drug dealer looking to make an arrest would a) have identified himself as a police officer while drawing the weapon and b) have had back-up waiting to step in once the deal had gone down; no cop will make arrests alone in the woods in the middle of the night.

Come to think of it, it would have been wise of him to inform Bobby it's a drug bust regardless. Things would have worked out better for him that way.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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In addition to all you say, to make the drug bust stick, Cliff'd have to give Bobby a chance to take the drugs and offer money in exchange, or else it might not stand up as a sale. Hard to do that while reaching for a gun, which is what he was pulling out of his belt.


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An undercover cop posing as a drug dealer looking to make an arrest would a) have identified himself as a police officer while drawing the weapon


Not necessarily. That can be done after the gun was drawed. And Cliff was shot while he was doing it, so I guess there wasn't a lot of time.

and b) have had back-up waiting to step in once the deal had gone down; no cop will make arrests alone in the woods in the middle of the night.


Depends on what kind of deal we're talking about. Two highschool cokeheads, I assume there's no need for a SWAT team.

Plus, a trained cop who was there to kill would've easily shot Bobby in the second he clumsly aimed for his gun.

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"That can be done after the gun was drawn".

I'm pretty sure you 'have to' identify yourself as police before pointing guns at people - it's probably against regulations and definitely unprofessional and stupid, possibly resulting in precisely what happened to Cliff (Bobby wouldn't even have tried to shoot him if he thought the guy was a cop on a sting). And Cliff had plenty of time to identify himself as it was him that set the pace of the situation and made the first move.


"I assume there's no need for a SWAT team".

The idea of a lone maverick cop performing arrests in the woods at night, is blatantly ridiculous - no one would authorize such lunacy (how could he even be sure Bobby won't show up with some more stiff escort than a kooky girlfriend?) Plus, I'd imagine it'd be mighty beneficial if there're actual witnesses to the transaction - a transaction which, as Nikki points out, was never even completed as Cliff just dumped the wad of coke in Laura's lap without ever receiving any money in return. There was no deal done and there was no case and there most definitely wouldn't have been a conviction for Bobby/Laura.


"A trained cop who was there to kill would've easily shot Bobby".

Well, Andy Brennan was also supposedly a "trained cop". Fact is, not all lawmen are extensively trained gunslingers - or particularly skilled professionals in any capacity - especially in tiny backwater sh-tholes like Deer Meadows (talking of which, it is highly likely that Deputy Cliff was out of his jurisdiction to begin with, traversing the forests around Twin Peaks).




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I'm pretty sure you 'have to' identify yourself as police before pointing guns at people - it's probably against regulations and definitely unprofessional and stupid, possibly resulting in precisely what happened to Cliff...


Exactly. That's why I wrote "it can be done", not "it should be done". Let's remember Cliff was laughing at two FBI agents who came to investigate a murder in his town, so I wouldn't call him exactly deputy of the year. Unprofessional and stupid, yes. And that's what killed him.

The idea of a lone maverick cop performing arrests in the woods at night, is blatantly ridiculous - no one would authorize such lunacy...


Not even the Sheriff who wanted to beat an FBI agent for coming into "his territory"? That's already a lunacy.

(how could he even be sure Bobby won't show up with some more stiff escort than a kooky girlfriend?)


Because Jacques was the one who arranged the meet. Jacques probably had thousands of meets with Bobby before and knew he would appear a) alone b) with Mike c) with Laura. He probably told Cliff that Bobby was just a highschool cokehead moron who would appear with a friend just like him or alone. I don't see a pretentious dork like Cliff asking for backup to face two teens in the woods.

Plus, I'd imagine it'd be mighty beneficial if there're actual witnesses to the transaction - a transaction which, as Nikki points out, was never even completed as Cliff just dumped the wad of coke in Laura's lap without ever receiving any money in return. There was no deal done and there was no case and there most definitely wouldn't have been a conviction for Bobby/Laura.


I don't see Bobby and Laura using these arguments to prevent Cliff from taking them. They'd be high and scared and would probably tell Cliff what he wanted to know about the big guys, which would probably be the main reason for this "bust". They're usually concerned about having a strong case for conviction when they have the big fish on the line, this was not the case.

Well, Andy Brennan was also supposedly a "trained cop".


He was, and he shot Jacques before Jacques could shoot Sheriff Truman ;)

Deputy Cliff was out of his jurisdiction to begin with, traversing the forests around Twin Peaks


So was the Bookhouse Boys to go after Jacques in One Eyed Jack's. Jacques was always moving from US to Canada and vice versa so he couldn't be tracked. If an FBI agent like Cooper risked his badge to go undercover on an mission to Canada, I can totally see Cliff doing it.

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So you want me to believe Cliff was some kind of Inspector Clouseau of the Washington state - the stupidest, laziest, most wayward and unprofessional undercover cop in history? With Cable assissting as a variation of Dreyfus?



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Yeah, you finally nailed it.

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