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utterly convinced Mike is Mike/The Arm and Bobby is Bob

posted 10 years ago by Dodgemaguire
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Clues: In the show/movie they repeatedly say "Mike IS The Man". Bobby (Robert as he may have been called in an episode) is connected to a white house at a lake in Garland's vision, Leland remembers a man who lived in white house who happened to be Bob (Robertson,Son of Robert) Leland remembers Bob when living at his grandparents one summer in pearl lakes, it is presumed by fan theory that Leland is in fact "The Magican"/The little boy who lives with his grandmother tremond/chalfont, who warns Laura of the "man behind the mask" the man being Bob/Bobby and the mask being Leland, it is my general theory that Bobby must have become interested in his fathers work (project bluebook) found the black lodge, became corrupted got killed by Mike and his spirit went to the black lodge where like Philip Jeffries he jumps back through time and wanting to get revenge on Laura for using him, possesses her dad to have sex with her, and not intent on that, wants to become a part of her when he realises he can't have her, when that fails he kills her, jump to Dale Cooper solving the murder and finding out Bob's identity so to save face he possesses Dale and tries to kill Annie, in doing this he accidently creates a loophole for Dale/Annie to try and save Laura from being killed, but because Laura has gone crazy she decides to die to save herself from Bob.

[–] hovee77 9 years ago

My brain is about to explode, lol.

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[–] crissttigaldames 9 years ago

You're probably right, him being called Bobby could hardly be a coincidence... who would have killed him though?, I doubt Mike. From what I remember doesn't Mike say they commited many crimes together, being spirits already?. Not sure I remember that right.

Bobby doesn't seem all that mad to find out Laura was cheating on him though, nor when he tells her that she's not interested in him, just in the drugs...

[–] nikkiweir 9 years ago

I think that Laura and Bobby were onto each other in many ways, and accepted certain things, such as that neither was likely to be monogamous. Bobby's jealous rage at James in the early series episodes was partly displacement of his real feelings about Laura's death, some of which we see at Jacoby's, partly a reaction to public humiliation by acting out what was expected of him. Also, if Laura and Bobby had a sort of ok/not-ok list of people they'd tolerate the other seeing, James was evidently on the not-ok list. The repeated question is, Who were you with. Knowing Who could change things one way or the other.

As for his reactions, no he wasn't angry so much. He was sad. In their last scene together, he almost cried when she begged off and asked for the drugs, because he realized that their personal relationship was over. He had tried to keep Laura by getting her what she wanted, only to turn into her drug pusher. She maybe didn't want a drug pusher/boyfriend, and seeing that told Bobby that the thing he had thought would work had actually blown it.*

Maybe that sense of blundering failure did become part of his later anger, as at the funeral, but his immediate reaction was more devastation. In the pilot when we first see him, before he's heard the news, he already seems down, on the verge of depression, not really getting the boost he usually gets from playing around at the RR, slipping off with Shelley, getting the Mr. Touchdown reception at school, and the like. His previous few days as shown in the movie add fuel to that perception.

*She might also have had the same fears for Bobby that she was developing for James, especially after the necklace eruption, but the nature of her situation and feeling that she should conceal it for everyone's safety kept her from saying more than that she needed the drugs to handle being at home. That much fit what he already knew; surely there had been a run-in or two with Leland over the years of their relationship, leading to Bobby's keeping a low profile around their house, but maybe it came in the guise of overly strict parents.

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[–] litheways 9 years ago

My take on this is that Lynch is always going for two narratives here: one in which evil spiritual forces are raining hell upon the world, and one in which this is a typical sad story about child abuse and lost innocence. For the latter, we have to imagine Laura is inventing the Killer Bob stuff. In this explanation, she gives Mike and Bob the names of two people she knows well. The show draws attention to this parallel multiple times, so we know it's deliberate: Cooper saying "different Mike, different Bob" at one point in the series, and the time in FWWM when Laura tells Bobby he's killed Mike, just as Mike and Bob/Leland are facing off.

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