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WHY WHY? CONFUSED PLEASE HELP


I have always loved Pet semetary 1 and have recently watched Pet Semetary II.

There are a few things that confused me, but mainly this....

In Pet semetary 1 as soon as the undead (either animal or human) comeback they are aggressive and kill. Jud tells Louis a story of a guy who was brought back when he was a kid and he seemed to resent the fact he had been brought back, the person who has raised u from the dead u generally hate i.e wanna kill.
I.E Louis brings back Church = Church haunts Louis bringing him a dead rat etc, but is stil affectionate to Ellie and even purrs when she strokes him.

SO WHY.....

IN Pet Semetary II does this go out the window!!!

First Zowie seems fine with Drew, but then towrds the end turns on him. Y does he not attack him from the start he hardly seems aggressive but then wants to attack everyone including Jeffs dad.

Why is Gus fine with Drew and Jeff why doesnt he try to kill them straight away?

Why Does Gus protect Jeff from the Bully Clyde?-There is just no relevance.

In the ending of Pet Semetary 1 Gadge kills his own mother and tries to kill his father and when Louis brings back his wife at the end she too tries to kill him.....I just dont understand why II seems to totally change these rules.

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I thought that when you came back you were opposite of who you were in life. So the dog and the cat were nice in life, so in death they are evil or whatever. Gus was an *beep* in life, so in death he is crazy/decent.
I don't know if this is right, but it's what I thought when I first saw it.

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That sounds logical..

I figured it was because it's a crap sequel that bends the rules of the original, thus adding to it's crap factor.

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The book explains it all better. Lets go back to PS1. In the book ONLY, a bull gage and Rachel were bad. Before that, every person and animal burried was just clumsy and smelled. The Timmy Baterman in the book was evil. He knew things about Judd and his friends that nobody else knew, but only evil things. Judd's dog spot couldn't walk strait and wouldn't eat regular food. It was rare things went bad. It was just a hard way for the people seeing their loved one/animal come back differently and realizing dead is better.

Work hard. Play Harder!

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jackscoloncancer I thought that when you came back you were opposite of who you were in life. So the dog and the cat were nice in life, so in death they are evil or whatever. Gus was an *beep* in life, so in death he is crazy/decent.
I don't know if this is right, but it's what I thought when I first saw it.

That would make sense, except for the fact that Clyde isn't exactly a sweetheart when he comes back.

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I am not an expert in zombie psychology, but:
Perhaps zombies are individuals in their own rotten way.

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I suppose It Is beacause
mr king did not write this story
they made It up
like stephen did
but stephen did It way better

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"Why is Gus fine with Drew and Jeff why doesnt he try to kill them straight away? "
Some people are so bad when they are alive that their zombie version looks good in comparison. An irony worth of Stephen King.


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Bodies buried in the Micmac Burial Grounds are possessed by evil spirits, not the souls of those who died the people want back, who at first, biding their time, manipulate those who tried to use the power to bring back their loved ones and those who stand in their way.

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Bury your own right aren't Gus and Clyde the same kind?

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They're not zombies. I can't stand people calling the Pet Sematary deadies zombies because technically they're not. I know it's silly to argue semantics over the terminology of a fictional being, but being a long-time fan of real zombie films, I would never consider Pet Sematary 1 & 2 to be about zombies. It's like when people get mad when you call the guys in 28 Days Later zombies when they're not really.

Off soap-box now, sorry 'bout that.

Also, I agree with jackscoloncancer that I always believed you came back as basically the opposite of what you were. Good while alive = evil when dead & risen.



"We are all graveyards, we squat amongst the tombs of the people once were"

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YEAH THATS THE WAY IT SEEMED.
YOU COME BACK THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WERE... THE IN A FEW DAYS ALL THAT GOES OUT THE WINDOW AND THEY GO NUTS.
FUNNY MOVIE THOUGH.
I LAUGHED MY @SS OFF QUITE A FEW TIMES IN THAT MOVIE.

"I CAN COME BACK CHASE..."
- CHASE REVEALS BREASTS AND JUST GRINS...
WTF?

"WHATS GOING ON AROUND HERE GUS..."
"WELL I WAS BUILDING THE DOGGY DOOR..."

"REMEMBER CHASE! I HAD RENEE FIRST"
-CHASE LEVELS GUN AT GUS' CHIN

(BEFORE) -SHOOTS GUS
"OWWww... I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS."

SEEING GUS BUST THE DOOR OPEN WITH HIS OWN HEAD AFTER THE HAMMER DOESN'T DO THE JOB RIGHT.

WATCHING UNDEAD GUS EAT.

CHASE'S FACE AFTER HE SHOOTS ZOWIE AND HIS MOUTH IS HELD IN A WIDE OVAL SHAPE FOR A MINUTE, AND THEN... "I HATE THAT DOG"

I CAN GO ON... THIS MOVIE WAS MORE COMEDY THEN HORROR. BUT STILL KINDA FREAKY AT TIMES.

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caps lock get stuck? lol


We are all graveyards, we squat amongst the tombs of the people we once were

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The dog didn't actually come back nice.. The kids were creeped out by it and it acted odd like the cat in the first one. It ate the kitties and attacked both of the dads.

Gus killed clyde, so clyde would take out Edward furlong after Gus convinced Edward to bring his mother back.

As he tells Anthony Edwards he wanted to *beep* her one more time.

I think the longer the person/ animal is out of the ground the wackier they start to act.

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Pet Sematary 2 is actually more faithful to the book in this regard than the first movie.

In the book, the dead that have been buried in the Micmac burial ground don't automatically come back as blood thirty killers. They come back as clumsy, odd, and creepy. Church comes back this way, although Church develops a fondness for killing animals and leaving them for Louis to find. People instinctively know Church is dead even if they don't consciously know. People are disgusted by Church and avoid touching him or being near him.

When Gus comes back the first night, he acts like the book describes. He has an empty stare, and he is clumsy. He falls trying to walk up the stairs and laughs. Then he sadistically rapes his wife.

I think making the dead automatically come back as savage killers made the first movie a little non-sensical because a common question I've heard people ask is, "Why does Louis bury his son at the burial ground when he knew he would come back evil?"

When the dead don't automatically come back as savage killers, it was easier to understand Louis' justification for burying Gage at the burial ground. Louis notes that the evil Timmy Batterman was the exception, not the rule. Louis recalls a story when Gage was first born and they were worried he would've been mentally handicapped. Louis reasons that if he had been born that way, that they would've loved him just the same. So he figures he will let him come back and see how he is affected, and either run away with Gage, send for his family in Chicago, and start a new life, or put Gage back down if he came back like Timmy Batterman.

The personalities of the dead that have returned has nothing to do with their personalities when they were alive. All things that return are possessed by the "Wendigo." It's a demon like creature that inhabits the forest beyond the pet cemetery and the creature that gives life back to the dead buried at the burial ground and also gives them a taste for flesh, particularly human flesh.

The dead brought back typically only kill the ones who buried them there. Animals don't seem to kill like people. But Timmy Batterman was responsible for his fathers death. Timmy frightened several people, but did not attack any of the towns people. Rachael killed Louis. Gus killed Drew...Drew's mother was just collateral damage.

Gage was to kill Louis, but he didn't kill him in his sleep when he had the chance. Even when they murder, the wendigo doesn't kill for the sake of killing. First the wendigo wanted to torment Louis by having Louis see his best friend killed and his wife killed and to have his heart broken by seeing his son die again. Gage killed Jud because the wendigo warned Jud to not interfere in Gage's 2nd burial and because Jud interfered in the Timmy Batterman incident. He killed Rachael to torment Louis and because Zelda wanted revenge.

If you notice in PS1 when Louis finds Jud, Gage had eaten large chunks of his flesh. In the book, Gage had spent the night feasting on Rachael's flesh.

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