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In real life he could not be completely invisible, and would recover.


He would be covered with a film of dust and lint. The debris embedded in the soles of his shoes would be visible for sure as he walked. His lungs would have picked up a film of new smoke after a few of the cigarettes he smoked.

And another thing: eating and drinking would put new, post-invisibility molecules into his cells and tissues. Isn't it that every seven years your matter is completely replaced? In his case it would all be visible new matter.

But I liked the story anyway, so I suspend all that when I watch it.

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Good points. Plus, I heard somewhere else that if a person was to turn invisible, he would also become blind - something about the retina being transparent due to the invisibility.

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In real life people can't become invisible, it's a movie, it doesn't have to make any sense

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Oh come on I'm tired of this it's just a movie crap and that it doesn't have to make sense.
Well if movies don't have to make sense than all of these debates don't have to make sense to people who don't care about making sense in the first place.

All of this is just for fun and if some "god forbid" logical conclusions shoud come out of this then so what?!?

I'm just sick of all of these "it's just a movie" posts. If you don't have anything better or smarter to say than just don't say it!!!

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The OP said "in real life", so it makes sense to point out that in real life, people can't become invisible. It's just a movie.

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it's a movie, it doesn't have to make any sense

Completely wrong. It's essential that a movie make sense, or else it's badly written.

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Remember when he says something like, "You don't wanna see what happens when I eat!" That always bugged me that we were to believe that everything he ate went straight through him, into the toilet, instantly.

Was a fun movie though. Much better than Hallow Man.

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"That always bugged me that we were to believe that everything he ate went straight through him, into the toilet, instantly."

He's invisible, not intangible. Was that a scene in the movie? I don't know. I never saw it. That's pretty lame if that's the case.

I don't think he would necessarily become blind, or have food or replaced cells showing through. If becoming invisible was possible, I think it would work much like how I think the Predator did it. He would make all incoming light rays curve around him then continue in the same vectors they had when they reached him. That way, he reflects no light, just creates a detour for light, then a continuation of it, and therefore appears invisible, although none of his cells are even invisible.

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If becoming invisible was possible, I think it would work much like how I think the Predator did it. He would make all incoming light rays curve around him then continue in the same vectors they had when they reached him. That way, he reflects no light, just creates a detour for light, then a continuation of it, and therefore appears invisible, although none of his cells are even invisible.


He said he could see thru his eyelids and thru his forehead also, if I'm not mistaken.

If light bent around him then we would not have seen the food, bubblegum and cigarette smoke inside him.

Bending around just doesn't fit this guy. It's cellular-atomic.

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I'm saying "if becoming invisible was possible". I'm not describing how becoming invisible happened in this movie. Please read more carefully.

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So if he can't be cellular-invisible (we both agree) then he can only be cloaked-invisible.

1 That would rule out holding a pencil and it's floating in air to observers.
2 It would make possible an invisible person leaving shoed footprints, like Claude Rains.
3. You could conceal things, steal things etc.

But:
4. If you were walking overhead on a grate or grated catwalk, people could see up your invisibility skirt.
5. The space underneath you would not be properly visible; there's no way to reproduce the surface you're standing on without showing your feet.

It looks like there may be no good way to become invisible, except by not being there.

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Right. But this is a bullsh!t movie. Anything can happen.

"1 That would rule out holding a pencil and it's floating in air to observers."

Why? That could still happen with a cloaking suit.


"2 It would make possible an invisible person leaving shoed footprints, like Claude Rains."

Every invisible person (whether cellular or cloaked) would leave shoed footprints.


"3. You could conceal things, steal things etc."

Right. Put anything behind the cloak and it turns invisible too.


"4. If you were walking overhead on a grate or grated catwalk, people could see up your invisibility skirt."

No, they wouldn't. The suit cloaks in all directions. Below is no exception.


"5. The space underneath you would not be properly visible; there's no way to reproduce the surface you're standing on without showing your feet."

Sounds about right. I think in the worst case, you may put down dark soles (like dark foot prints) when you're walking, just while your foot is down, because no light can really get in under your foot.

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Re under-foot:
Just maybe ground under foot could be seen, if it's a body-stocking type cloak, because it would transmit light around for illumination, just as it would transmit line-of-sight around.

So a body-stocking, glove-fitting cloak might work. It would need to repel dust, dirt, water etc., and not give surface reflections like glass or plastic.

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I can't remember which story it was, maybe some Douglas Adams, or maybe Stefano Benni.

Anyway, in this story it is established, that the most powerful and efficient invisibility is not so much manipulating the object, that you wish to render invisible, but mind of the viewer(s). It's cunningly called a S.E.P. invisibility. S.E.P. stands for "Somebody Else's Problem". You can walk right past the tightest security with that one!

I think that's clever.

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If he was just made invisible on a cellular level, as other's have pointed out, he would eventually become visible again as his cells replicated. Since that didn't happen, it means not only was his invisibility cellular, but also genetic, as the new cells being produced carried the invisibility code. So does that mean the baby he has with Daryl Hannah in the end will be born half invisible? So their child will be translucent?


And what about the fecal matter in his digestive tract? Several times throughout the film we see him consuming food and beverages, then moments later stripping down and achieving total transparency. It would take a day or two for all that food to work its way out of his system, so in those scenes we would have actually seen all the fecal matter inside him.

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The food he consumed would eventually become invisible as well, hence his poops were invisible as well... must have been a pain to wipe

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Wait...do you wipe by sight? like are you visually inspecting your own ass crack each time? I'm not even judging, I'm genuinely in awe at your level of self care.

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I think the normal person wipes until the paper appears clean. No one beyond a contortionist could possible view their own butt crack.

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Oh wow. These are fantastic points.

Also his rods and cones in his eyes have to allow for light to bounce and excite them else he won't be able to see. Meaning his eyes would be visible.

Also new hair growth would show up on his face and body from the new cells the body is constantly making. Also the nails would show.

Within hours to days he would stop being transparent and be more visible.

Over time all his cells would be replaced and he will cease being invisible.

Also the mental turmoil would make anyone completely insane honestly.

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You should check out the novel this is based on; it addresses a lot of these points as issues Nick himself has to deal with

This movie alludes to some of it when Nick demands his molecules back -- the novel Nick still isn't a scientist, but learns enough to be able to explain to Alice that his molecules have been changed to "potentials" or some such, meaning he can still eat, but whatever he digests gets turned into more of what he already is (i.e., invisible).

He also gives off no scent (so dogs can't track him) and dirt sticks to him and his clothes less than it would to visible surfaces.

It really gets into the weeds of his existence, including how he sets up a false identity, accounts, etc., all while trying to stay ahead of Jenkins.

Here's a quote:

"The theory seems to be that these objects are not built up out of the same subatomic particles as other physical things. Instead, they are composed of different particles, or perhaps units of energy, but arranged in the same structure as before. Or perhaps they are largely the same particles, only interchanged somehow. There are differing schools of thought. In any case, you have an object with roughly the same properties as the original, except that light passes through it without any refraction. Specific gravity is slightly lower. Mechanical bonding seems to be poorer"

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