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Racist against White People

posted 10 years ago by FreedomWatchTower
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I'm not a Racist but...
Just kiddin this is actualy a mockery of all those reverse racism screaming
uneducated idiot bigots who will tell you on every movie that deals with history,
in a not so rosie Sunshiny way that it spoils a new kind of racism against poor
pale people. Also a new kind of cliché is that they will tell you that oh hey check you facts because it wasnt as bad as most people say cause there was this person or that group that actualy was responsible for the help or the evil... whatever.
Is there Reverse Racism ? No! and he will tell you too=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M

[Excuse my english im not Canadian/American/English/Australien/whatever...]

[–] kmags84 10 years ago

Yes, it exists. I think the film is a fine one and have no issue with how race is portrayed but reverse racism absolutely exists. Don't give me "White Guilt" and "White Privilege" answers. Bigotry is Bigotry.

[–] al666940-3 9 years ago

There's a BIG difference between "western" racism against blacks and black racism against whites:

Western racism:
- Race-based (blacks were considered objectively inferior regardless of whether they were defeated in battle or not)
- Religion-justified (curse of Ham)
- Freed black slaves were STILL considered inferior (for being black)
- Civil War only ended slavery in formality. In reality it continued for whites still were the owners of the lands and blacks were unable to secure land for themselves thus were forced to keep working them for the exact same white owners, only now they they were spared the whip. I mean, do I need to explain the KKK, Jim Crow, etc?

Black racism against whites:
- Direct response to western racism

Black racism against anybody else (arabs, latinos, jews, etc)
- No excuse for it (they are also oppressed minorities) unless the blacks are in their countries (we all know how Israel really feels about black jews from Africa)

As simple as that.

Before western racism, slavery overall was "defeat-based", meaning whomever happened to lose the battle was enslaved, and thus after being freed could rejoin society (restrictions applied) and his children would be considered equals to everybody else. It had nothing to do with racial/religions prejudices.

[–] kmags84 9 years ago

Trust me, I understand all of that but you also have to break it down into simple terms sometimes. The reason? Someone like me, ancestors came here after slavery. My family owned nobody. We were(Mostly still are) dirt poor. My superiority doesn't exist. So, when I was growing up with kids of all races(In a city where Im the Minority), we were all on the same level. Therefore, me being insulted racially was the same as if I were to do so. I was taught never to use any derogatory terms. Most of my friends are Black. We all play on the same level. Cops treat me just like them etc etc...

Now, with all that said, INSTITUTIONALIZED Racism is strong. That's where I will never disagree. My issue is common folks. I don't see how one can be below or above the other when life for us looks exactly the same. Poor and disenfranchised

[–] Sparky48 9 years ago

As Malcolm said himself in the movie in that scene when he was arguing with a black academician on a TV talk show, "To ask why a black man why he would hate the white man is like asking a rape victim why she hates the rapist who violated her or asking why a sheep would hate the wolf who tries to devour it."

If you can't understand that so-called black racism toward whites is actually just reaction to racism, you're retarded.

[–] krypton_son 9 years ago

Please. Blacks are some of the biggest racists there are. Don't try to defend it with some crap about the history of slavery. No one that is living today was involved in American slavery, not them, not their parents or grandparents. Blacks are the biggest racists in the country, sorry, it's a fact.

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[–] Sparky48 9 years ago

Blacks are the biggest racists in the country, sorry, it's a fact.

And you're the biggest retard in the world. As if black people discriminate in the work force, racially profile whites or black policeman practice racist brutality towards white youths. Get serious.

[–] life4all 9 years ago

Blacks are the biggest racists in the country, sorry, it's a fact.

You are entitled to your opinion (which I don't share) but I think you are confusing prejudice with racism.

I think most everyone is prejudiced about one thing or another. However I believe that racism is a bit more systematic and typically requires power and influence to administer. The Gold(en) Rule applies: “he that has the gold makes the rules”. A black man that can place limits on the autonomy of others designated strictly upon the race of those he means to dominate or control is then capable of practicing racism. Simply disliking people on the basis of race is both prejudice and hatred but not really racism.

[–] Threadkiller (3080) 4 years ago

Well said but white supremacists know this already and only fein ignorance. What they pretend to not realize is thar white supremacy/ anti black racism has been a systememic problem, while their deflections of erroneous claims of "black racism" has never been or that any "anti white" sentiment among black individuals is a direct result of systemic anti black racism & white supremacy.

[–] tyrexden 9 years ago

Some people call Spike a race-baiter, but i don't quite see it like that. He has to hit us over the head with a spoon to get us to open our eyes to things that we'd prefer remain blind to. He HAS to be over the top, or we'd just ignore it.

This movie was one of the first that i recall, that put a white viewer into the shoes of a black person. And, i'm not just talking about following a black protagonsist around on his journeys.... i'm talking about every day life. Little things you never think about. To enable a white person to see something from a black person's perspective, even when its painful to do,...that is a tremendous achievement.

[–] sage2112 9 years ago

So what you're saying is - he's a spectacular race-baiter?

[–] tyrexden 9 years ago

maybe i'm saying, sometimes race-baiting is an entirely appropriate thing to do.

[–] Dejay 8 years ago

Just thinking out loud:

Maybe some "minor" form of black supremacy is psychologically beneficial to counteract the instilled inferiority complex in black culture. Some racism is part of the subconsciousness of society.

There are scientific studies that show that simply telling one randomly picked group of students they are inferior to the other alters how well they test.

So you could argue that simply equality won't uplift a disenfranchised minority, they need to feel empowered to improve their plight.

Not saying that this is right and not trying to make excuses for the black supremacy and segregation element in NOI. Just a thought that occurred to me.

[–] RynoII 8 years ago

In the movie, Malcolm starts out as prejudice towards white people, but then after his journey to Mecca, he sees things differently and thinks of the white race as an equal after that. So he drops his prejudice at the end, and the movie is not intended to be prejudicial against whites. It is only intended as part of his character development. At least that is how I saw it.

[–] rupert-ian 8 years ago

That's how I saw it too, and the end was sad. And I voted for the "literally Hitler" guy.