The ending


I kind of thought towards the ending Coppola kind of went off the rails and the movie just got too weird. He seems to have a tendency to do this, same thing happened with Apocalypse Now.

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What did you find weird about it?

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Just the tone and the music, I guess it was consistent with the book but it just felt a lot like the end of Apocalypse Now, seemed to just go off the rails.

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I guess the carriage chase looks kinda panto, but the fight with Drac and his gypsies is pretty cool, then there’s the dramatic ending where Mina kisses his crusty old demon mouth before lopping off his head.

I found it pretty coherent, whereas Apocalypse’s ending is much more stylised and dreamlike.

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I think it was mostly the scene where Dracula's brides are trying to hypnotize Mina and Van Helsing, just really really weird and felt like an acid trip (much like Apocalypse Now). As for the very final scene I felt like it was kind of sad that Mina seemed to be abandoning everyone who was fighting so hard to save her (I wouldn't have felt that way if Dracula wasn't so incredibly unsympathetic) , but I'm guessing things worked out between her and Johnathan in the end because the part of Mina that was Elizabeta went to Heaven with Vlad (or at least that's what the painting at the top of the chapel seems to suggest.

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I guess the brides scene was pretty weird, but I think Coppola was rendering their hallucinatory powers.

Interesting what you say about the Elizabetha portion of Mina detaching and going to heaven. That whole added storyline of Mina being a reincarnated Elizabetha is quite an absurd convenience, but the whole film is mad so you just go with it.

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Exactly, once again that entire scene felt like the ending of Apocalypse Now, just a pure acid trip. I have heard that is an interpretation as to what happened to Mina at the end, it seems she really is the reincarnation of Elizabeta but since the curse was lifted she can now be Mina once again. Again this is speculation as the film doesn't provide a definite answer.

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Well the attack of the brides is a brief sequence which is somewhat hallucinatory, much like their seductive attack on Harker earlier. I don’t find it derails the film at all but to each their own.

Presumably Mina is and has always been a reincarnation of Liz, so quite what remains after the Liz portion ascends isn’t clear. It’s a somewhat nonsensical notion that Coppola threw in so he can have his sympathetic ‘romantic’ take on Dracula.

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Any relationship between this train wreck and Stoker’s novel is coincidence, imaginary, or both.

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I thought it was a decent adaptation, I just didn't buy the whole romance the way Coppola seemed to think I should.

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it wasn't brilliant, it was a masterpiece!

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It was a very good movie, a few minor complaints but still really good. I will say this the first time I saw it I did not expect it to be as emotional as it was. Parts felt more like a drama than a horror film.

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Agreed it has some tiny minor flaws, but overall it's a masterpiece.

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The best part I definitely think is Hopkins, he freaking killed it, that and the visuals geez that was good for 1992.

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personally i could live without the tom waits scenes, and the whole insane asylum part.

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I liked him actually, I thought he played Renfield well, Keanu Reeves was the big miscast.

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It's like Coppola saw Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey and was like "yes that's the guy I want for my Dracula movie"

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Since i have never watched Bill and ted's i really liked Keanu, he did a great job. But then again I wasn't spoiled by his teen comedies before.

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Eh him attempting a British accent just didn't work for me.

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I don't know why but when Mina steps in between Harker and Dracula at the end and points a rifle at them and says "when my time comes will you do the same to me", that line always got to me when I was younger. I felt like those men were trying so hard to save her and even dying for her in the case of Quincy and she was in love with a monster.

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he was not a monster, he was her one and only true love, the one she killed herself for.

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As a man he was one of the worst mass murderers in human history, as a vampire he murdered her best friend and imprisoned her fiancé so he could bang her. Not to mention all the other people he killed.

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Yes fully agreed, but she loved him. And I mean TRUE love. The type of love that crosses centuries, and that was the beauty of the story.

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Yes but did Vlad deserve true love?

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Nothing beats the ending of the 1931 classic with Bela Lugosi

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Worse part of the ending is that in the picture on the ceiling of Dracula and Elisabeta, Mina clearly is not the double image of his dead wife. This is never explained and this also throws out the reincarnation idea.

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