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Did they forget that that was NOT his mother?


Psycho IV focuses on the woman Norman killed when he was a teenager and he keeps reflecting back and speaking of her as if she was his mother. They also wrote into the plot she being sickened by him for being born and having carried him. HOWEVER, Psycho II tells us that she was never the mother and she only raised him for her unmarried sister!. Norman knew this so why was this over-looked?

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Thanks, I better check that out

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I don't know what the deleted posts say but the answer to this is that (if we even include 2 & 3 in this continuity) it is stated in Psycho III that Mrs Spool wasn't really Norman's mother, she just claimed she was and tried to steal him. Norma Bates was his real mother all along.

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Yeah and did i hear that Mrs Spool also killed his father.

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Mrs. Spool was his aunt.

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It's written by the same man who wrote the original movie, and he chose to ignore the previous two films.

http://cinefantastiqueonline.com/2008/09/interview-psycho-screenwriter -joseph-stefano/

"Gearing up for Psycho IV, I decided to ignore the two sequels – like the business in II about Norman’s mother."



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Ignore it or not, they don't disregard anything so we can have them all in the universe, unlike the entire TCM series and connecting Halloweens 4,5,6 to H20 and Resurrection.

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Ignore it or not, they don't disregard anything so we can have them all in the universe, unlike the entire TCM series and connecting Halloweens 4,5,6 to H20 and Resurrection.


True. He said in that same piece: "In Psycho IV, the time is five years after III, and Norman is out of the hospital."

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I guess you didn't see Psycho III?

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She is his mother!! Everybody seems confused here.
Norma was his mum, mrs spool was his aunt who killed his father and kidnapped him when he was a baby. That's why she got locked up. Watch psycho three and u will understand

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Very interesting.
Norman bates- Apparently, The Whore is calling.

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In Psycho III, we find out that Norma actually is his mother.

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Even if Joesph Stefano ignored the other two sequels, you'd think he'd at least gotten certain details from the original right, since he wrote that screenplay as well. Norman was 5 when his father died, the motel wasn't built until Norma took up with the man that would eventually lead Norman to commit murder and matricide, etc. Also, it's funny how Mother's wig is brown in IV but grey in the other movies. It does make sense, that Mrs. Bates is actually quite young because Norman states that in his mind she grew old after he killed her.

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I know right? How could Chet Rudolph have talked Norma into building the motel...when its already LONG built & established when Chet comes along in Part 4?


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This one is somewhat entertaining; but a convoluted mess—like III—nonetheless. PSYCHO II-83' was unique and fresh, in that it gave us a long awaited follow up; an interesting premise of Norman being slowly driven insane again—after being supposedly cured—and excellent, atmospheric, nostalgic direction. PSYCHO III-86', came along 3 years later and decided to twist the mother identity head over heels again......Mrs. Spool was only his aunt after all.

Norman being married to his psychiatrist and a soon to be father, is a preposterous plot device and the film ends with all the demons of the early part of his past being released. Only they forgot about the rest of his behaviour in the earlier sequels. What transpires in this film, is only the icing on the cake, since it is mostly about "The Beginning". Wouldn't they have been released sooner, during his incarceration and treatment after the first instalment and also after PSYCHO III?

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