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When Kevin's car breaks down.


After Danny Glover tows Kline's car he tells Kevin that the hoods that were harrassing him were only trying to scare him a bit.

What would have happened had Danny Glover not showed up in time. At a minimum Kevin was likely going to lose his car somehow (how I don't know since it wasn't running). He was also likely going to be robbed.

My question though was was he in for a beating? Or worse?

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Probably depended on how he handled himself. Such encounters are designed to provoke responses because the bullies see themselves as dispensers of their own brand of justice.

Danny Glover demonstrated the "right" response which was respect tempered with honesty. Going too far in either direction, too insolent or too obsequious and patronizing would have provoked a beating and/or worse.

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a beating my arse

punks like that are way way weaker than people think. the only power they really have is the power you give them by conceding to their 'strong act'


around here, there's rednecks and gang blacks sharing the same streets. and who do you think bows to whom?



"Cos... f__k's sake, who'd wanna keep trying to shoot a nice guy like me?" ---XXXX

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Don't know where you're from, with gangs of blacks and rednecks sharing a street - but I'm from the whitest state in the country, and this whole scene is my worst fear.

I've worked in some rough neighborhoods in some cities before - and I was scared in broad daylight. I wouldn't want to be there at night.

I expected that Mack would've been robbed, beaten, and maybe more..

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georgia

but they're really not tough, they operate in numbers. *beep* far as i'm concerned.

around here when there's a gun fight, the black 'rapper' 'thug' 'gangstas' just pull the gun out and start firing all around, waving the gun around like it's a laser weapon. the news footage will show bullet holes in everything BUT the guy who was the target lol ...holes in the walls, trees, side of the car


yeah maybe he woulda been attacked, considering they were in a group.

let me add this.

when someone stands up to them, they can't handle it. me, i woulda gone after the one with the gun. me doing that woulda made it hard for him to land a shot. the rest woulda prob stood around, my guess



"Cos... f__k's sake, who'd wanna keep trying to shoot a nice guy like me?" ---XXXX

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I'll take your word for it, then.

Hopefully, I won't find myself in that situation, as I won't be in any large city at night, ever, I expect.

Still, the scene ranks up there on my fears, as it was meant to, probably, for most suburban whites.

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yes i'll agree with that. i think it's in our collective conditioning, since the civil rights riots, to think that way.

btw do you work in the industry? nikon11 sounds like a cinematography handle

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"Cos... f__k's sake, who'd wanna keep trying to shoot a nice guy like me?" ---XXXX

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Ha, no. It's for something else that Nikon makes - not camera related.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFv9SMSMQ



"Cos... f__k's sake, who'd wanna keep trying to shoot a nice guy like me?" ---XXXX

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You have nothing better to do, LTUM?

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than what..... than to make a post? like you just did?

lol

i have no idea what you are talking about. cheers

(and don't shoot the messenger)


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Yes, just keep fanning the flames of racism.

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no, no, you have it exactly opposite from what i am doing

i am saying DONT stereotype

but i guess you cant see that



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Then why post that YouTube clip?

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to illustrate my earlier point:

punks like that are way way weaker than people think. the only power they really have is the power you give them by conceding to their 'strong act'



"rage to exist..." http://tinyurl.com/c9ush3z

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i think its more racist for the film to portray blacks with violence issues, like the ones who coonfronted kevin. why did they have to be black?

white people rob folks too, you know.



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No disagreement there.

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word.


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Should have pulled up somebody's driveway to make it look good.

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According to Trump they would have been Mexican, pulling behind Mack's car in a Taco Truck.

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Got this for a dollar the other day at a yard sale.

The movie came out at a time when urban blacks were routinely seen as a roaming boogeyman. After watching it again, I wondered just what the big deal would have been if Mack just left the car, watch, wallet, whatever and walked away. He wasn't going to get shot dead in the street, they just wanted his stuff and to scare him so much he couldn't fight back. The guy could afford whatever he lost, so I'd be like "Here, wants so shoes, too?"

I live in pleasant, working class town about 11 miles outside Boston, but there are some sections of Lowell at the time that looked like warzones. If I broke down there around '91, I'd probably have a coronary.

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i think its more racist for the film to portray blacks with violence issues, like the ones who coonfronted kevin. why did they have to be black?

white people rob folks too, you know.


No kidding, that's why the movie shows a white dude holding up the filmmaker (Martin) and shooting his thigh.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf8ZDs-D8Ys



you've probably seen this by now... interviews with the old white bearded guy and apparently an interview with the big talk black guy..... and maybe a rematch was in the works...

I haven't looked to see if that happened or not... it's all over by now..


But yeah... I guess it had to be black people that were harassing the Kline character because that is where his car broke down. do you think if his car broke down in a "white" suburban neighborhood, then the white thugs would have come out and harassed him? really?

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no i hadn't seen it, actually. thanks.


do you think if his car broke down in a "white" suburban neighborhood, then the white thugs would have come out and harassed him? really?

^^ exactly. exactly.

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Doesn't Simon say (yeah, I know), that probably those punks from Boyz N the Hood would've just teased him a bit and maybe taken his wallet, but they wouldn't have killed him? The point was that Mac felt that Simon saved him there from real harm and he remembered the last time someone saved him (the bus incident) and how he didn't thank that person and didn't want that to happen again.

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simon says i'm too old for this sh't!



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Who knows.

Some criminals just want your money and monetary values, others are just sadistic and want to hurt you.

There was one program I watched where this guy got lost in the ghettos of Washington DC. The guys could have just taken his money and left him alone, he was outnumbered like 10 to 1, but instead one of the guy punches him and brags about "I knocked the man out!!". They are all filming this for their amusement. Then they turn the camera off and shoot him (he survived).

Or that disgusting case in Flint in the 90s when these suburban teens got lost, and ended up getting raped/killed/shot.

Statistically, most robberies don't end up with the victim being killed, shot, or beaten. But it happens, and that's the real scary part about it.

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No beating. He would have been robbed is all.

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