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This does not have enough deaths

posted 7 months ago by TM1617-2 (643)
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It is inadequate for Gaston to be the only one who is killed, especially since his death is so weak and unsatisfying. Lefou, his two closest friends, and the elderly cad from the asylum should die too. They are as horrible as the instigator is. Unlike the majority of the villagers who simply fight the castle staff when the battle begins, get the hint, and leave, Lefou and his comrades seek people to torture. The midget bows to Gaston only to keep himself safe, and since the intention is barely achieved anyway, it is seen that the first man eagerly participates in brutal crimes. Operating the mental institution is a guy who does not apathetically support Gaston's immorality but someone who is thrilled by it.

[–] OuterSpace (128) 6 months ago

Well that guy who got smashed into the floor by the wardrobe looked pretty dead.

[–] TM1617-2 (643) 6 months ago

Thank you, OuterSpace. I have never considered that person because of viewing the wardrobe jumping as simply part of the fight. Realistically, he would be dead, but we're probably supposed to assume that he survives due to the nature of the scene. You are missing that I'm not referring to a numerical matter. I mean that Lefou, the two guys who follow him, and the man from the asylum all deserve to die like Gaston does.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14488) 6 months ago

Well, if you're interested in darker versions of the "Beauty and the Beast" tale, there are hundreds of such versions in books online. No need to go watch a Disney movie when you can just buy and/or download a really dark, gory version of the tale for reading.

[–] TM1617-2 (643) 6 months ago

Thank you, AmeriGirl26. Dark versions of fairy tales are fun, but this is not about a level of violence. The point is that Lefou, his friends, and the guy from the asylum are horrible people and should meet their deaths in this movie.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14488) 6 months ago

Well....sadly you're not gonna see that in a film like this, because of a G rating. They wanted kids under the age of 12 to be able to watch.

Here's something interesting. Story canon states that Gaston died when he fell off the castle roof and fell into that deep ravine around the castle (which probably used to be the moat).

But I read a book that apparently was written by a Gaston fan, called "The Book of G." Now the novel never actually uses his name (copyright issues) nor does it involve any characters from the Disney film. But it tells pretty much, an R-rated, published fanfiction of Gaston (or "G" as he's called in the book, I mean, we all know who he is) surviving and having amnesia, and going on a journey with a fairy princess disguised as a boy to get his memories back. It got pretty graphic, particularly involving fighting some nasty fae monsters. I won't spoil the end, but the book makes a cute, vague reference to Belle and the prince after everything else happens.

[–] TM1617-2 (643) 6 months ago

It wouldn't have to look like a horror movie. The four deaths could occur at once, and without being very violent. Thank you for telling me about the book.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14488) 6 months ago

You're welcome :) The author is Lily Archer.

If you want a Disney movie with a lot of deaths, perhaps Hunchback of Notre Dame might be more to your liking ;) They got murder and a near-infanticide in just the opening scene!

[–] TM1617-2 (643) 6 months ago

I don't want a Disney movie with many deaths. My post has been for saying that in this story, there are people besides Gaston who do not deserve to live. We probably could apply that to more of the men in the village given that they all participate in the siege of the castle, but this is not a slasher film or mature drama. I am actually not a fan of Disney because most of their movies are much too upsetting, including the one that you mention, or annoying. Beauty and the Beast just happens to be something that I like.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14488) 6 months ago

I like it too, but frankly, it's a kid's film, so the death count is gonna be very low in general, and often off-camera, or comical/cartoony in nature.

To be honest, I never liked the villagers Belle had as neighbors. The fact that they all turned on her and her dad and believed Gaston when she tried pleading not to have her dad taken away, just shows how stupid, gullible, and corruptible they all were. They reminded me eerily of the people who lived in the town I [sort of] grew up in over in central Illinois. People there were stupid, cliquish, and didn't like books either. I'm amazed they even had a library, considering how few of them appreciated books larger than 17 pages.