Was Penny enjoying it with Dennis Peck?
During the sex scene she was talking to Van Stretch on the phone and was crying. It seemed that one minute she was upset and the next she was really into it. What is your take?
shareDuring the sex scene she was talking to Van Stretch on the phone and was crying. It seemed that one minute she was upset and the next she was really into it. What is your take?
shareFirst time I had seen Faye Grants Rack.I always wondered after seeing her in "V" as for your q I liked it better when she was into it(too bad it was short)
shareI think Penny had mixed feelings...she was getting it up all right, but also I think felt guilty about cheating on her husband, esp. since she is talking on the phone with Van; that could have explained her crying. Also, Van is a basket case in and of himself; I think Penny had mixed feelings about him also...one part of her loved him and the other part hated his abusive, ugly side.
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ya in the funeral scene she calls peck a b*tard (presumably she knew that Peck did it)but this is never developed on
shareI think Penny had mixed feelings...she was getting it up all right, but also I think felt guilty about cheating on her husband, esp. since she is talking on the phone with Van; that could have explained her crying.
When I first saw this film I thought she was upset or crying. But as soon they pan back to show her straddling him I knew better. While she was on the phone Peck was stirring her insides like motherf!@$ing coffee as Bernie Mac would say.
she definitely enjoyed sleeping with Peck, but of course felt guilty...she wouldn't have felt so guilty if she wasn't on the phone with Van Stretch though...
"U find me offensive, I find u offensive for finding me offensive" Em
and thats the sad part she liked the sex so much she got her husban killed. thats the moral of the movie
you think your big time, you gunna die big time!
HERE COMES THE PAIN!!!
that's sorta true! but she didn't want Van to die..she wanted to hurt him, but she didn't want him dead...he was abusive and all, but he was still her husband and the father of her child....
"U find me offensive, I find u offensive for finding me offensive" Em
But she was still besotted enough with Peck, guilty or not, to refuse giving him up.
"I have an appointment with eternity and I don't want to be late"
yes, that's true...she wanted both men although she knew it was impossible....in the end, she loses them both anyway....
"It's gonna happen. All the people who change the world die in violence" 2Pac
Lest we forget she was money laundering for Peck too. she had plenty to feel guilty about.
shareI think the point of the scene was Peck's enjoyment of Penny's simultaneous conflicted emotions - her enjoyment being expertly pleasured fighting against her feeling of shame. Her torment gave Peck a special added pleasure and underscored his character. It was Peck's demonic character that was the main point of the film. His weakness was his grandiose vanity at his mastery at manipulating others by knowing and exploiting their weaknesses - of women's sexual vulnerability and men's jealousies and insecurities and by doing so building an entire structure of puppet people. The moment the pathetic Van Stretch became a liability Peck disposed of him abruptly and crudely as worth nothing more. Raymond presented more and more of a challenge (to his vanity) so Peck first sought to break him mentally by torturing him by playing on his doubts about his wife. Finally when there was no escape he chose to go to Raymond's wife to see if he could give one last twist to the knife before the end. Raymond finally and fortunately twigged what Peck was about and anticipated him.
shareYes, you are absolutely right. Peck lived off of exploiting others' weaknesses.
He was like a leech, feeding off of others. He was also like a parasite, not able to exist without torturing others and feeding off of them in harmful ways...
"The unexamined life is not worth living," Socrates
She cried because even though she was sleeping with Peck, she still loved her husband and knew she was betraying him while he was pouring out his heart to her on the phone.
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