The movie suggests Morrie got whacked for busting Jimmys balls, But if he'd waited patiently and hadn't said a word, Would Jimmy have whacked him anyway, to save paying him?
Carbone and the Pink Caddy guy had actually pissed him off, so he was kinda justified in a weird way...
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Morrie had his hand out for a half million dollars that Jimmy had no intention of paying. I would agree with Jimmy in that the longer Morrie was stiffed the more likely he would run his mouth and the wrong person would hear all the details about the heist. It does not make it right but then again we are talking about mobsters.
shareWould Jimmy have whacked him anyway, to save paying him?
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Oh Henry boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling.
shareI have to disagree. Morrie made too much noise for too long that by the time Morrie was whacked that if the reverse had happened that Paulie and minions would have figured that Morrie was most likely responsible. Jimmy was way too important to the fortunes of Paulie for nobody in that family to investigate even if the cops figured good bye and good riddance where Jimmy was concerned. Even if Paulie could not put his finger on who was responsible whacking Jimmy would demand retaliation and Morrie would be on a very short list of candidates based on Morrie's shortcomings including that he was not Italian for starters. Paulie would figure that even if the wrong guy got whacked the message needed to be sent in terms of nobody whacks a top earner without penalty.
shareDefinitely think he was. But question is- how come he told Henry they'd call it off?
Was it to get Henry to get Morrie there, then to stop him from protesting he lied about not whacking him, and with Henry gone they did it in peace?
I'm *beep* bitch
Or maybe thats all *beep* and nobody ever told henry they would call it off. Henry was a miserable bastard and lied all the time so its not inconceivable to me that he made it all up...
shareJimmy Burke was a greedy bastard. he had no intention of sharing the money to any those guys except for Kicking up to paulie Vario. Morrie's real name was Marty Krugman and yes he was always gonna get whacked
shareJimmy knew that Maury was a talker, and wouldn't be good at keeping secrets. And he also knew that Maury told his wife everything. If Maury had been a little more discreet, and not had such a tendency to talk to everyone, he wouldn't have gotten whacked. Maury was a nice guy, but he wasn't all that smart.
shareI think Jimmy knew Henry was friends with Morrie and would try to intercede, so they sent him home before they whacked Morrie.
shareI think he call it off in that moment because he didn't feel like killing him in that moment. But he knew he was going to kill him later because the guy wouldn't shut up.
shareI think Morrie didn't know enough to leave Jimmy alone and cut his losses. Jimmy knew he wasn't gong to stop bothering him so he got rid of a minor problem. Poor stupid Morrie thought he was an equal
If Morrie had let it go, he'd probably still be alive. Maybe if Morrie was smarter he'd try to get Henry to convince Jimmy to give him something.
How can you not pity Bell, waiting at home for some danish.
shareConsidering Morrie was the type of guy who kept getting on Jimmy’s bad side for one reason or another, eventually it was going to happen. If not Jimmy, someone else would have gotten rid of him for being too much of a nuisance to the mob.
shareThe bigger question is, how did Morrie end up in the wiseguy inner circle somehow? He ran a wig/toupee salon and was a degenerate gambler who borrowed money from Jimmy. I'm guessing that not everyone who borrowed money from Jimmy got to hang out with the crew, drink in their social club and go to their houses.
Did he have some kind of pull with Henry because Henry's wife was also Jewish? Or was he also a small-time scammer on the side who was useful to the crew as something other than just a guy to loanshark to?
In the Goodfella's book Henry says that Jimmy was a night owl and he would see Morrie's cheap, early morning TV spots advertising his wigs/toupee's. Henry surmised this made Jimmy very angry as he knew Morrie had a decent source of income. Jimmy had no intention of paying anyone unless it was the boss, especially Morrie.
Morrie was a pretty good earner as a bookie. That is why he was able to hang out with the mobsters. Morrie was better off without them but a bookie needs muscle to collect on bets or nobody would pay him therefore the long term relationship. Morrie paid a cut of his action so in turn Jimmy would help collect on bad bets.
shareMy assumption is that Morrie paid Jimmy just for the right to run a book, not to collect for him. I would expect Jimmy would just want his percent of the take, and if Morrie had guys not paying that was Morrie's problem, not Jimmy's.
If Jimmy had to collect from Morrie's gamblers, then that money was all Jimmy's and Morrie never saw a dime of it, so it would be in Morrie's interest to have his own muscle to collect.
I don't know. We never see any evidence that Morrie had his own muscle. Morrie also says a couple of times a couple guys have been owing him such as the guy with the Lufthansa tip. If Jimmy was in control and Morrie was merely an employee it seems those debts would have been collected in days and not months as implied. Probably right in that any money Jimmy collected Jimmy kept. But it seems long term Morrie could not run his operations the way some gamblers were stiffing him and Morrie was around for many many years.
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