Joker statue scene


I just watched this again and it reminded me of an old thread from IMDB days regarding the Joker statue scene.

Here: https://moviechat.org/tt0099528/The-Exorcist-III/58c753696b51e905f677e594/Question-about-my-favorite-scene

Everyone talks about the Nurse station hallway scene, which is very suspenseful and shocking, but the Joker statue scene is also very interesting.

In the thread I linked it is described that the statue starts out as a priest holding a Bible and a cross.

This from a post by TheSolarSailor:

"Ok, I have studied the film more closely and here is what I think is going on with the scene. You may disagree, but this is the best I can come up with.

* The scene starts with the camera above the stairwell, looking at the large ornate wall made of glass window sections with glass doors on either side. In the center stands a statue of a priest holding a Bible and a cross.

* The conversation between Kinderman and the priest ensues leading to the clock stopping, the giggle, the whispering voice, etc. As Kinderman approaches the door and sees the other door creak open, you can hear the sound of something heavy being moved across the floor.

* As Kinderman leaves the room and exits through the glass doorway and into the stairwell hall, notice that the statue that had been located at the center in between the two doors is now gone. The lights flicker, then go out. We hear the sound effects that always accompany the presence of the evil force at work in the film.

* We are then shown the statue in a new position, hidden down the hallway to Kinderman's left and facing away from him (and towards the audience). The statue now holds a sharp knife where the cross had been, and instead of the priest's head, it is now the Joker's head. Kinderman then suddenly encounters Alice, who is very jovial after appearing from absolutely nowhere."


Before reading this, I had never noticed the location of the statue or hearing the sound of it being dragged across the floor.

I find this scene very unsettling and bizarre.

What purpose does the statue change in look and location serve?

Nobody ever sees it except we the audience.

I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this.

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Interesting... I'll give that scene a rewatch soon and consider.

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Another interesting scene is when Kinderman is in Dr. Temple's office.

Behind Kinderman on the right is a pic (X-Ray) that's looks a lot like the Pazuzu amulet from the first film.

Temples office: https://orspectral.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/aos-1.jpg

Pazuzu amulet: https://www.brianamartini.com/amuletopazuzu

It may just be another skull X-Ray like on the left of Kinderman but it looks quite a bit different...so who knows.

Edit: Forgot to mention the toilet in Temples bathroom: http://www.scifimoviezone.com/cpthowdy02.jpg

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Here's a good video of the Joker statue scene. It starts with a short scene about the surgical shears:

https://youtu.be/MngJShRWV3U?t=16

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I’ve always thought the joker statue scene was simply to frighten audiences. I remember seeing in on its initial run, and there was a quiet gasp, and then murmur that ran through the audience. I don’t know if people believed what they’d seen. I think it was brilliant on Blatty’s part, because the audience is busy thinking about what they MAY have just seen when he unloads the jump scare with Alice.

The hospital hallway scene is justifiably famous, but everything in the priest’s office, and leading up to the Alice jolt, is also very effective (and frightening).

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I think you're right. The joker is just meant to scare the audience.

What seems odd to me though is that Kinderman seems to hear the statue being dragged down the hall.

I mean, why go to the trouble of having the statue move and make noise that gets Kinderman's attention and then just show us the end result. Seems like a strange idea.

Thanks for the reply. I wish there was more talk about this movie.

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It's one of the most misunderstood scenes in the film. This is going to sound arrogant but I think I know what it's about. It's not a simple jump scare, nothing about the film is simple. The statue is a psychological attack on both the viewer and whoever discovers the statue first.

First and foremost, it's a reminder that we're dealing with a demon who goes where he wants and does what he likes. The opening scenes of the movie sets up the premise that holy ground holds no power for this demon. He can enter churches and deface statues. A direct challenge to gods power when you can walk into his house and start demonizing the joint.

So the statue is a late in the movie reminder. This demon is able to go where he pleases because he can possess who he wants. In the case of this scene, he has possessed Alice into defacing a statue, not only on holy ground, but within 30 meters of the head priest. And he does it to simply show that he can, to remind us of how he's getting around and doing all the murders and to remind us again that holy ground holds no fear for him.

It's a deeper scene than most realise. Some describe it as a cheap jump scare, but I've always liked it, and the above is why. Once you realise you're dealing with a demon who has no fear of god and who can enter gods house at will, it ramps up the terror factor to 11. You probably know that (I think it was Blatty) who said that this is actually a scarier film than the original and this why he said that - because the original featured a less sophisticated possession of a little girl. This film features very advanced possessions of just about anyone, which can get him on holy ground. That I believe is why he said it's a scarier film (although for years I didn't agree because I didn't understand what I understand now - I just thought he was being nuts saying that, or trying to market the film with outrageous claims of it being scarier - in a lot of ways, he's right.....it's psychologically scarier because of the increased skill of the demon.....but not visually scarier imho).

So a jump scare is the least of what the statue is. It's the deeper meaning behind it that is much more scarier than a jump scare can ever be. I love that this movie doesn't make things too obvious, it's a worthy successor to the original.

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"In the case of this scene, he has possessed Alice into defacing a statue, not only on holy ground, but within 30 meters of the head priest."

I never considered Alice possessed or guilty of defacing the statue but I suppose it's possible. I always figured the demon was capable of just making it happen (supernatural event).

Do you think Alice dragged the statue down the hall?

In any case, you make some interesting points.

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I believe this scene is actually a victim of the editting process.

Blatty was forced to cut a large amount of content in post production from what I've read. The statue scene was put out there as an attention getter for sure, but never went anywhere. None of the characters saw it, no terror in their eyes at all.

The missing head from the statue of Mary in the hospital was not noticed by the character's either, that we know of (some detective work, right? Kinderman walked right by it.) However, it was already defaced when we entered the scene. We also know the killer was working the hospital actively - that this happened is no surprise.

I don't believe Alice was the one to alter it. In the cases where we were shown interaction with the environment, we got some sort of clue there was a party involved, presumably possessed temporarily, or either a first person perspective as in the movie's beginning. This scene gives none of that.

No, I believe this was part of something larger that ultimately got chopped during the edit process and left out there as a stand alone.

I suppose the novel could give us a clue, however I have never read it so knowing how it translated to the screenplay is above me currently.

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"I believe this scene is actually a victim of the editting process."

I never considered this. You may be right.

"Blatty was forced to cut a large amount of content in post production from what I've read. The statue scene was put out there as an attention getter for sure, but never went anywhere. None of the characters saw it, no terror in their eyes at all."

Is it possible it was strictly meant for the viewer?

"I don't believe Alice was the one to alter it. In the cases where we were shown interaction with the environment, we got some sort of clue there was a party involved, presumably possessed temporarily, or either a first person perspective as in the movie's beginning. This scene gives none of that."

Good point.

"I suppose the novel could give us a clue, however I have never read it so knowing how it translated to the screenplay is above me currently."

It's been quite a while since I've read the book so I can't remember iif that scene is even in it.

I would highly recommend the book. It's very good.

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