Opening credits


When the film opens and the credits are still rolling, we see the killer/demon's point of view as it walks out of the church. There is a priest running across the street to the right. A block or so later, the priest is running across the street to the left. Also, the killer/demon passes a young black boy who is standing in an alley to the left. Then the killer/demon encounters another black boy holding a rose further up at the intersection. To me, it looks like the same kid - white T-shirt, faded blue jeans. Did anyone else notice these things?

Very strange. But one of my favorite films. The weirdness of it, including the creepy old lady and the nurse, is well done.

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My interpretation is that this is a kind of fever dream mutually shared by Karras and the Gemini Killer/Vennamun. There's no reason that Vennamun should remember "a fall down a long flight of stairs" - that's clearly Karras' memory of his own death. The vengeful demon does not place the Gemini into Karras until after the fall, thus too late for the Gemini to remember anything about it.

Otoh, there's a tapping sound like a walking cane meeting the pavement. Perhaps this suggests that the Gemini is out for a walk in the body of one of his infirm "old friends" while "his" (Karras's) body is still in a straitjacket in the hospital cell. Since both Karras's soul and the Gemini's soul are sharing the same body, there is every possibility that two separate thought-and-memory systems are in play, and the opening sequence may be expressing this idea by depicting them sharing a dream and reliving old memories.

The running priest: note the location of the boy with the rose and the running priest: directly in front of the MacNeil house from the first film, with the camera inevitably approaching the top of the Hitchcock Steps where Karras died. The opening places us directly and immediately at the core locations where Regan MacNeil was possessed, Burke Dennings was murdered, where Kinderman climbed the Steps finding evidence, where Merrin stood in front of the house, etc. We are brought back to the beginning, and the ending, of the first film. And now we see a cassocked priest running twice across the street in front of the MacNeil house.

Perhaps the priest is part of Karras's memory/fever dream... dreams are distortive, and Karras may be dreaming that he is back at the house/Steps again, running in a dream-panic.
Or maybe it's a shared Karras-Gemini memory of the very night of the MacNeil exorcism. Remember that Karras (the reanimated Karras-cum-Gemini personality) "was found wandering the C&O Canal" on the night of the exorcism. This indicates that after the Gemini caused the reanimated Karras to break out of his cheap coffin ("vow of poverty...disgusting!"), he wandered the Georgetown streets until he was finally picked up by authorities. This gives him plenty of time to run around, crazed, in the vicinity of his most recent living memory. Why "crazed"? Because - we can imagine - the resuscitation, plus the shock of both Karras and Vennamun being slammed back into "the body", plus the trauma of Vennamun's recent execution and Karras's recent fall-and-death, could cause "them", both in Karras's body, to run in a blind panic, before finally adjusting to their new embodiment, and finally calming down sufficiently to listlessly wander the C&O Canal.

The black boy "Thomas Kintry" holding the rose is more difficult to explain, since he is only known to Kinderman, and the opening is not Kinderman's dream or fantasy. However, it is plausible that Kintry was somewhat known to Vennamun, who, directing the hapless Karras's body, drugged, crucified and decapitated Kintry on the boathouse dock. So this may be Vennamun's, not Karras's, portion of the theoretical shared dream. Why he appears twice is a mystery, but of course, if we regard this as a dream, it is true that dreams, as mentioned above, are distortive. Karras/Vennamun simply see the boy twice under the strange weavings of the dream.

The rose is not explicable from any data Blatty gives us. There is nothing in Karras's or the Gemini's past that suggests roses as significant. Nor is there anything in Kintry's past to associate him with a rose - he's a newspaper deliverer, not a flower salesperson. Elsewhere, though, it is said that for Blatty the rose represents purity, as it did indeed in the first novel, where Regan MacNeil was in the habit of leaving a fresh rose at her mother's place at the breakfast table. But we as filmgoers were never told of the book's Regan-rose association, so its presence in Exorcist III remains enigmatic.

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Wow! That was almost scary to read, because it was so well thought out! Great stuff bastasch!!!

Reading your responses further makes me long to see another Exorcist movie, in the timeline of The Exorcist and The Exorcist III of course.

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5535, thanks for the warm words... Dang it, just writing on Ex III makes me want "one, last, great" Exorcist tale from Blatty or from a very savvy reader/interpreter of Blatty. It's so easy to go astray, as has happened for example with most films based on HP Lovecraft, imo.

I have wracked what's left of my brains but can't come up with anything new. My only "new idea" is to start a novel/sequel "starring" Lt. Kinderman, only this time it would be William Kinderman's daughter, Julie, who has traded in her ballet career to follow her Dad in police work. That way the story preserves one character from the original story, "keeps it in the family", and also gives the vengeful demon one final target. But how that all works out completely escapes me.

My fantasy is that some worthy writer-producer-director will ... somehow ... come along and fulfill my wishes...

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No prob :)

I like that! Julie as the main character would be great, and it would be nice to see a continuation of that bloodline!

One aspect I'd love to see, would be Julie accidentally attracting the demon (Or A demon), instead of it just existing when the movie starts. Perhaps she could do something unintentionally that triggers the appearance of the demon? I always love moments in horror movies and thrillers when a character is about to do something that you know is going to end badly, even if they don't know it. It just makes the suspense and anticipation so much fun! Kind of like the ouija board in the original, and how people shouldn't be messing around with them etc.

I also agree that someone like Blatty would be the best choice for writing this, or for at least coming up with the main plot. Also, it would need the type of director like Blatty or Friedkin (Back when he was still making good movies) to pull this off, as it would need the kind of pace of the original and part III. If it was all jump scares and like the current mediocre horror movies, it wouldn't work.

Slow dolly shots and slow crane shots, long takes without rapid cutting, natural lighting style, minimal soundtrack, minimal handheld camera work (No shaky cam), no CGI, minimal blood (Shouldn't be a gross movie from a horror fan's standpoint) etc. It needs to be a confident movie like 1 and 3, and trust that the audience can enjoy strong dialogue and a good story before the ghastly stuff begins.

*I've imagined a scene at night of Julie at home, sitting in a chair, reading (Similar to how her father used to do), maybe one little lamp on, nobody else around, no TV on, no radio on to ease any tension. We see her from the far opposite side of the room, but we very slowly track toward her, just inching our way to her. We finally reach her, and as she reads her book (Maybe a book about evil, religion, exorcisms etc), a little bit of her hair rises forward and up at one side, as if having been blown by a tiny gust of air, or... as if having been blown gently by someone, or something... We see this in a side view shot.

She notices this (Also the same side shot), doesn't say anything, but has a similar look on her face as to when the nurse nearly decapitated her, only less affected. Julie places her book down, stands and turns to close the window behind her, but it isn't open. We can tell that she's sensing the possibility of another presence being there. No music at all during this scene.*

That's the type of subtle creepy stuff I hope we get again in horror/thrillers.

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I like your ideas about introducing Julie to the demonic. Nice touch with the little "breath" moving her hair. This would also create resonance with what I've called "the Pazuzu wind" - the wind that blows in the Iraq prologue in the Friedkin film, the wind in Ex III that invades Fr. Morning's room when the bird dies and the crucifix falls and bleeds, the wind that lifts the young Merrin's cassock in Holland in Dominion ... and now: in your scenario, a very light breeze chills Julie, and it would also chill the viewer. The demon is near.

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Thanks! Also like the breeze in the office in part three, that lifts the papers a bit after the clock stops!

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ARRRGGGHH! Damn fine catch!

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Forgot to mention the really big Pazuzu Wind - part of the "dream" opening sequence - the mini-hurricane in the empty church at night!

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That's right! Great opening, and easily among the best openings in a horror thriller!

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Yeah, and it makes a good prelude for my theoretical "mixed Karras-Vennamun fever dream" ... even if a mini-hurricane happened to invade the church, that would not account for Christ's eyes opening on the crucifix. We're already deep in the terrain of the unconscious psyche...

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Good point!

BTW, do you think Blatty actually filmed Brad Dourif jumping out the window to recreate the Karras jump, or is this guy in the video getting wrong info?

Go to 11:03 in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbEpp-GdX6A

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5535, sorry for the late reply - I don't have any objections to the claim. Since Blatty had already filmed Dourif in other scenes, he probably would have filmed Dourif as Karras in the final exorcism scene where Karras jumps in fact, iirc, this has been written about (where I don't recall).

This would have worked perfectly since Jason Miller had not yet signed on, so that Dourif's Karras was the film's only Karras. There may be audio evidence that this scene was filmed using Dourif as Karras - check out the trailer and you will hear a male voice yelling, "Take me! Come into me!" and is is clearly not Miller's voice - it sounds like Dourif at a high tone and decibel. So I presume that this is a stripped audio segment from Karras/Dourif's last moments, and if it is, then it's pretty obvious that Dourif was filmed as Karras leaping from the window.

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Cool, didn't know all that! Will re-watch the trailer again!!

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Yeah... do watch the trailer and, though I vouch that it's Dourif's voice, still that's only my subjective impression. I'm sure that it isn't Miller's voice, though.

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