I recently came up with an idea that Kim's granddaughter is also Edward's granddaughter. Opinions?
shareCould be. I don't imagine her really loving another man...
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I really doubt it. How can a human girl and a machine have babies? I don't recall there being any intercourse between the two.
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A machine also can't bleed or fall in love & Edward did both.
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A machine also can't bleed or fall in love & Edward did both.
Not to be a buzz kill but my theory is the movie is about a story a grandmother is telling her granddaughter a story about the origin of snow that is much more imaginative then water freezing in cold air.
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The man has no hands, why would he even have a penis?
disgusting. go get your penis and sling it back to *beep* off land.
shareAll I could think about after that is "Edward Scissorpenis". A sure to be quite controversial porno has just been born, ladies and gentlemen.
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Er no because Edward wasn't real. She's telling a fictional story to her Granddaughter not a true story.
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I've never heard that before. Did Burton say she was making it up or was there something in the movie I missed?
shareDid you not see the intro and end?
She wasn't telling a 'real' story. It's a fairytale.
There are too many questions for it to be believed as real events. Snow doesn't just appear, ice doesn't either, nobody would leaves an old castle empty for so long knowing the owner (inventor) died, you know the list goes on. Nobody thinks Red riding hood was based on a real event. Many people missed Burton's intenstions with this film and took it to litral.
Remember the proper title was "The story of Edward Scissorhands"
A Tim Burton Fan
Saw the entire thing, fear not. I guess, like you pointed out, I took it too literal. The bit about the empty castle and all that, well, I just thought that was all part of the suspension of disbelief. I mean without it, Ed wouldn't have been around and nothing that happened in the movie would have...well, happened. But I do see what you mean, I just didn't realize the story she told was a known fairy tale in the movie itself.
shareKim is telling her granddaughter the true story of what happened to her as a young girl.
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she is telling the story of what happened to her as a teenager which was true, she wasnt making it up. yes it didnt make sense a guy who wasnt actually human who had scissors for hands came from the castle etc, she fell in love with him etc but the point is its a fantasy film!
there is no way the grandaughter is edwards, they made no hint atall that more than a kiss went on and in that respect it would have been too far a move from logic if he wasnt real but fathered a child.
See that's what I took from it. I never got the sense she was making a story up and I don't think there was much to support that. That's almost like saying Daisy was "making up" the story about Benjamin Button. Fantasy is fantasy.
shareExactly! She is telling her Granddaughter the story of what happened to her as a teenager. The snow in the beginning of the movie is Edward up in his mansion carving sculptures of Kim. They kissed, but never had sex. She married and had kids and so forth, but she never stopped loving Edward.
shareYeah, I like to think it all really happened. To have it that it was all just something Kim made up would completely undermine the story as a whole.
Exactly. Boo.share
Of course it all happened. She tells her granddaughter about what happened to her when she was young. It would undermine the whole story if it was just a fairytale.
And neither is she Edward's. Kim and Edward only kissed, nothing more.
And the movies proper name has always been "Edward Scissorhands", nothing else. Where did the poster get everything from?
Look under FAQ.... its up to the viewer to decide if her story is "real" or not.
shareWe can not know if its a fairytale or not, its a movie like any other so that means everything is possible.Burton left us questions to ask and that is a good thing!
sharebecause Edward wasn't real. She's telling a fictional story to her Granddaughter not a true story.Actually, the ending is open to interpretation. Some choose to believe it's a fairy tale. Others (like me) choose to believe it's a true story.
Well EVERYTHING is open to interpretation. We could debate wherever he had a heart of a cookie or it just gave the inventor an idea.
But that side, look at it from how the film was written, how Burton told the story.. his spoken about this many times in interview back in 1993.
Because the story doesn't make sense as a 'true story' Ice appears from nowhere, castle is left undiscovered for years, nobody went back, the fact Edward isn't human and has a cookie heart. There was a reason it was told the way it was. A modern day, bedtime fairytale, just like the Grimms.
The cd soundtrack was titled 'The story of Edward Scissorhands' for a reason, at least that's how Danny Elfman understood it, and he was dateing Caroline at the time she wrote this as well.
But each to their own.
Just amazed that so many people hate the thought of it not being 'true' i find it much more powerful and meaningful as a fairytale, and kids always have in the back of their mind 'What if...' Imagination.
Those are all good points, wombstar. I don't have a problem with imagining it as a fairytale as opposed to a "true story." I love fairytale type movies.
But in my opinion I think it's a more powerful ending (for me) believing that it really did happen. I like to believe it because this way I can have a good cry at the end lol.
(BTW you have just made me crave cookies since you mentioned it lol.)
I'm reaching for the life within me. How can one man stop his ending. ~ Blue October
Plus the dvd menu's work as story book.. ;)
It doesn't matter too much, but it doe explain a few things or reasons why this or that didn't happen.
I watched the last hour on tv the other week and noticed they've cut a lot of it out,(possibly for add breaks) i dunno which version's appear on dvd theses days but thankfully i still have the original release. :D
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I personally think that the story would be much less moving if Kim and Edward consummated their relationship. There's something more heartbreaking and romantic about the impossibility of their relationship as it is portrayed in the movie.
I've had it with these monkey-eating fiddlers on this Monday-to-Friday roof!
"How can a human girl and a machine have babies?"
Did Edward even have a dick?, surely the inventor would have given him hands before genitals, unless he was some kind of pervert and Edward was to be his living sex doll??
"Let us sit upon the ground, And tell sad stories of the death of kings"
I don't think this was supposed to be a fictional story at all. Didn't you notice how Kim's voice sounded very similar to grandma's, just obviously younger?
shareI think it's up to the viewer. I like to think it's a true story she's telling her granddaughter, but I can see how it could go the other way.
Now as for the OP's question; No, I don't think Edward and Kim ever had children. If you believe the story is true, as I do, you can't then believe Kim would be lying about never seeing Edward again. It's out of character. If she was gonna lie, why not go with a happier ending?
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I don't think they did anything beside kissing...
But at the same time, I don't think that Kim would fall for anyone else
I don't think it was even meant to be ambiguous at all.
Burton had a clear concept from the start. He knew what he wanted with the story and what it meant for him. In fact he even first imagined it as a musical, but then changed his mind.
I think Burton sees it as a "true" story. In many ways Edward Scissor-hands is the most autobiographical film about Burton without it being about Burton.
Burton felt like an outsider during his upbringing and never felt he fitted in everywhere.
So he took all of his feelings, and his life in the suburbs and imagined a character and film from that.
Even Edward's hair looks similar to Burton's
So Burton imagined it as very real and made it that way. It's just that during the years some people had other thoughts about it.
I see it as real. It leaves more of an impact that way than if it was just some random story told by Kim.
Besides, Edward still lives in the castle by the end, don't he?