overrated tripe


I have never understood the acclaim this movie gets. It's a variation of an old shopworn story formula done in 100s of other books/movies prior to 1990. The characters are one-dimensional cliche's who have meet-cutes and predictable reactions at all the right moments. They exhibit 0 development or growth and have no "arc" of maturation throughout the plot. (I'm beginning to think Tim Burton never read Joseph Campbell.) They behave like gullible sheep or a hive of bees who think in one mind whenever Edward's "image" gets improved or harmed, and exhibit no individual gumption or common sense. (The same problem is found among the easily-fooled Gotham populace of Burton's Batman Returns, but that movie had only slightly more action and events to justify the lack of development in other fields.)

This movie doesn't have an appropriate age level. The atmosphere is too dark and scary for children, yet the story and characters are too saccharine and simplistic for adults. Who is the target audience supposed to be?

The ending was a lame copout, but I have to admit it's consistent with the idea that the entire town population are intellectually lazy and unimaginative.

On the plus side, the setting, scene style, set design and music are good, but Tim Burton's habit seems to be to use those elements in place of any legitimate story or characterisation.

The whole thing feels like it should have been an hour-long (or half-hour-long) episode of a "Twilight Zone"-style anthology TV show, or a film short like Burton's Frankenweenie. It could even have been a Hallmark TV-movie-of-the-week and I might have liked it more had I watched it in that context. In fact, the same could be said of most Burton projects. He probably should have stuck to the shorts, since he really doesn't have enough writing capability to fill out a full length cinematic feature film.

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joseph campbell is not required reading. the film presents an exaggerated version of suburbia. that being the case, yes, just like in real life people do act like sheep. it's part of the point of the story.

peg and esmeralda do show separation from the herd, but for very different reasons. peg changes over the story...so does kim. edward definitely changes. i just don't agree at all that that was zero development or arc for the characters. to me, it was very clearly the opposite.

i've known plenty of adults and children who loved this movie. but i would venture to say that the target audience was pre-teens and teenagers, as the film was a reflection on some of burton's own experiences during his formative years.

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Many of the characters are supposed to be one dimensional. But many of them do develop--to say otherwise is just false. Edward, Peg, Kim, and even Jim are vastly different by the end of the film.

The target audience is everyone. The reasons why you say it doesn't appeal to different audiences are the reasons it appeals to all audiences.

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Not having a "target audience" is what separates cinematic art from commercial drivel.

The story is absurd, so it can only be a gothic fairy tale in a modern setting, you have to take it at face value because there are no parameters to work with.

If a boy lives alone in a house until it starts falling apart and he never goes out for food, then there are no rules.

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dont worry...of this johny crapp movie, i agree with you. but you are going to get the, mentally 14 year old girls fanbase, pantys in a twisted bunch ...

i am an outsider and i thought the whole movie was quite a yawn

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ehhhh, I am not now, nor have I ever been a 14 yo pantytwisted bunchedupgirl, not even a die-hard Depp-fan, but even I can tell the difference between commercial drivel (Twilight) and cinematic art... I will cop guilt to Vincent Price nostalgia, though

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I appreciate yor tip of the hat to vincent price

BUT

My opinion of "21 dumppstreet" actor posing and pouting through a shallow story of a gothic outsider with scissors for hands will always remain the same... Gothic pancake whiteface Mugging his way through stereotypical movie cinematography and character stereotypes mashed together on a tenuous storyline that is a slight twist of other movies is boring at best; this movie should have been a 20 minute cartoon.

This is just my opinion.... I am glad I enjoyed the movie

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I am glad I enjoyed the movie....NOT!!!

But I am glad u enjoyed the movie though...

Viva la difference

I am an outsider and u don't need to beat me over the head with a bag full of scissors and celluloid stereotypes to communicate to me... Please

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I second that motion

Thankfully higher forms of idiots like you always reach out

Now go hug your poster of johny dumppstreet
And have a nice day fanboy

The movie was a snore silly emo

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