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What powers Victor Pascow. Spoilers and whatnot.


First off i've read the book and watched the movie, and nothing really explains why he is ever present. (Well enough in my opinion) In the book, and the Movie it is stated that Pascow is there because Louis tried to help Pascow and Pascow wanted to help him.

The only thing that bothers me about this is that there is no indication that Pascow knows about the MicMac burial ground except that he warns Louis not to go beyond the barrier at the Pet Sematary during the "dream sequence" after Pascow dies.

Pascow was a student of the university, and that means he could of came from anywhere. If either the book or the movie would of stated that Pascow came from Ludlow then this wouldn't be that hard of an issue for me to swallow.

The book talks about the power that the MicMac burial ground has, and that the power is growing during the story. Nethier the book or the movie explain what is behind Pascow warning Louis. Except that Louis tried to help him, so Pascow is trying to return the favor.

My opinion is that if there is a powerful force behind the MicMac burial ground that can influence events like Church or Guage dying. Then there has to be a force greater than "returning the favor" behind Pascow.

I'm honestly just starting to read Stephen King books, and watch the movies. I havent watched any interviews of him talking about this story. He might have already explained this or maybe the "returning the favor" plot is all there is. I just don't buy that Pascow was compelled to try to help Louis.

Any insight or even your own opinion on this is welcome.

Thanks

WDLynch

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King does tend to leave some things to 'our imaginations', plot-wise.
But I always felt that Pascow knew about some of the *bad things* merely because he was dead! I've seen many a film where passed-on spirits seem to have a Knowledge, and try to help or warn the living.

The book does say something along the lines of since Louis both tried to save him AND was literally present when Pascow's soul *passed*, that this formed a bond between them. A link.
Pascow was then able to return, albeit in a limited way, to help Louis...and later Rachel.
He couldn't stop anything, he could only warn.



I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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I think that how Pascow had the knowledge he had is left a mystery on purpose. These things are better left ambiguous IMHO.

Welcome to the world of Stephen King! I think Pet Sematary is one of the better film adaptions of his books. The Green Mile, Stand by me, and The Stand miniseries are also solid film adaptions.

I recommend reading his books in order of release date. The earlier works are superior IMO. The Dark Tower series is what he described as his "Magnum Opus" and I agree. It is probably my favorite series of all time. I also loved Bag of Bones, but his fans gave that one mixed reviews. I think it's just great ghost story. The miniseries with Pierce Brosnan is also worth a watch.

"I saw it move too!"-Mo Rutherford

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"First off i've read the book"

dude, stop lying, your just trying to sound pretentious and quite frankly thats a turn off.

Bitches Leave

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Earlier King works, the shorter than elephant novels he writes now, actually left things up to your imagination every now and then. I think he lost that as he wrote more and more.

I've read a lot of earlier interviews with King. I am not really a fan of his recent work, so I really haven't seen any recent interviews. But generally, if he is like he was in the 80's and 90's, he doesn't particularly like talking about "Pet Semetary." He doesn't like the book and claims that he wishes that he never published it. You're unlikely to find anything where he goes into any depth about it other than the reasons why he wishes he didn't publish it (generally the scene where Louis exhumes Gage is the one he hates the most).

Strangely enough, I never wondered about Pascow. "Pet Semetary," the book, was such a good read that I was too focused on the plot to think about it.

I guess one way to look at it, is that the ambiguity was evident from the moment Pascow died. He suddenly knew who Louis was and he suddenly knew that Louis would eventually go and bury something in the burial ground. Louis even wonders right away how he has this knowledge. What King did was establish two things with this scene: 1. Death bestows knowledge unto the dead and 2. As long as you're alive, you'll never know exactly why.

I would assume that it has a lot to do with sort of becoming one with the rest of the universe. Sort of like some people think that you die and in the afterlife you are presented with a lot of knowledge you didn't previously have. I am not saying I personally believe that, but it's not an uncommon belief.

This is how I see it:

If you read "The Stand" you are presented with this idea of an ambiguous but all powerful evil force that fights against this ambiguous but equally powerful good force. This idea is represented throughout King's work. When Pascow died, he became part of that good force and it wasn't just Pascow who was trying to help Louis, it was that good force as well. The good force was helping him, in the form of Pascow, which it could do because he joined into it.

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In case anyone's wondering, the only reason King had a problem with Pet Sematary was because he thought he had gone too far with it. Iirc it was inspired from a personal experience he had with his son, possibly also a toddler at the time, when he was almost run over by a truck. That's why he's not too fond of the book, no other reason.

Anyway OP, good question. It was never explained what was behind Pascow's return and it's completely up to your own imagination. There's definitely no concrete answer to it.

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The near accident with Owen was part of it, but it was inspired by two incidents. The first was his daughter's cat Smucky getting run over by a truck on the road. He buried it in a pet cemetery and was troubled over how he was going to explain death to his daughter. Three days after this event, he started thinking about the novel. It was his idea of the consequences of not being honest with your children and telling them about death, the reverse option being worse. It was later when his son Owen almost got hit by a truck that King put the two ideas together.

http://stephenking.com/library/novel/pet_sematary_inspiration.html
http://www.johnconnollybooks.com/int_king.php

I only have a hard copy of the interview where he talks about why he hated the book, but you're right, he thought that it went too far and was just grisly. However, in the interview it was the exhuming scene that seemed to disgust him the most. I'll put why in a spoiler tag in case someone doesn't want to read it

When Louis exhumed Gage, he described the corpse and Louis hugged the body, making it pass a large amount of gas. He was very vidid in the description of this man and his dead kid and hated the fact that he had written it.

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I always wondered why King wrote what he did over & over, and then claimed he hated what he wrote...over & over!
Didn't he proofread what he wrote, for God's sake?

Some of it I may be able to answer my own question, at least partially.
At least 2 of his earlier novels, King admits he wrote them under a heavy fog of alcohol. "Christine" was one of these novels.
King was a hardcore alcoholic for some time.


I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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I read somewhere that he was so high on cocaine when he wrote Cujo that he can't even remember writing it. He wishes he could remember.

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He also doesn't remember directing Maximum Overdrive.

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Someone asked him once why he never tried directing again after "Maximum Overdrive." His response was "Did you actually see the movie?" He also mentioned that he was "coked out of his mind" to the point that he barely remembers it.

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Honey, come on over here, sugarbuns. This machine just called me an a$$hole!

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Stephen King is very much the sort of writer who doesn't plan much out in advance and he simply writes as he goes along. In a lot of his earlier interviews, he makes the claim that the stories write themselves, he is just there as the conduit, so to speak.

I wrote a novel about 12 years ago using this style and let my mom read it for editing purposes. She liked it, but told me I had too many sex scenes in it. I was shocked, because I had absolutely no memory or intention to write like that. Going back and rereading it, she was right. There were these sex scenes that not only did I have no memory of writing, but they were embarrassing to even admit I wrote them.

I think Stephen King writes like that most of the time. "Pet Sematary" probably came out in a rush of inspiration and he just went with it.

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It wasn't Victor Pascow that was speaking to Louis, it was the Wendigo speaking to him as Pascow. A rather telling clue was this line in the novel, back when he was in Louis' office:
"Injuns bring my fish."
He also uttered phrases used by Judd ("a man's heart is stonier", etc).

Now, to what end? Why warn him? The answer - he wasn't; it didn't matter how the message or influence was delivered, it was just important that the knowledge of the burial ground itself was implanted into the intended victim's mind, the small seed for what would be a potential garden that would eventually be harvested. The burial ground was the Wendigo's hunting ground, a gaping net that lures in its "fish" - the troubled, grief-stricken souls who wander through. Pascow was just a tool like Judd, in this case a beguiling persona that the Wendigo adorned to put things into motion.

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"Not a bad interpretation at all because Pascow can be seen as good or evil."

I'm definitely certain it's the latter, though, as it was his presence that not only implanted the suggestion of the burial ground's presence, but also set up Rachel's death, completely screwing Louis over.

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In the dark tower it goes by the turtle who threw up and made the universe. It acts as a counterbalance to the evil.

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I'm currently watching Unearthed & Untold The Path TO Pet Sematary. The actor who plays Pascow and the director both say that Pascow is more of an angel, not a demon or ghost. He is there to help. The actor says he actually put pictures of angels on his script to remind him of this. That actually shocked me! I have seen him at times as someone who is just trying help but never did I view him as an angel. I have read the book only once so honestly, I don't know, I just wanted to throw out there what was said in this documentary.

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Too much vague shit that's left unexplained.

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