Handsome doctor. Loving hushand. Doting father.
What exactly was the problem?
Does the book delve into this more?
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maybe they just hated him because he's such a Bad actor?
R.I.P. Rick Ducommun and Tony Longoshare
IIRC Rachel's parents were Jewish, or at least that was the strong implication, and they wanted their daughter to marry a Jewish man. I think they warmed up some when the kids were born. (I can't remember exactly, it's been awhile since I last read it--two years ago during Superstorm Sandy, BIG MISTAKE, I was already terrified enough!)
shareIn the book it was mainly a class thing - Rachel's folks were wealthy snobs and Louis was a lowly student who didn't come from any family of note and had to scratch together every penny he could find to pay his way through med school. That, plus the fact that they guessed that Louis and Rachel were sleeping together prior to getting married were their major issues. Rachel's dad even went so far as to offer to pay for Louis's med school if he called off his engagement to Rachel. Lewis basically told him where he could stick his offer and it's that incident more than anything else that makes them hate each other's guts.
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Wow, I thought they hated him because he just always seemed distant.
shareWow, I thought they hated him because he just always seemed distant.
shareBecause in-laws are *beep*
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Wow, he cheated on her? I have to read this book. I always knew the character rubbed me the wrong way.
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both jud and louis cheated on their wives infact
and if i recall right it was with prostitutes in both cases
It was the same prostitute too and in one of the outtakes, they discover this, high five and shout "Eskimo brothaaaahhh!"
~~~"Who do you think you're dealing with? Guess again."~~~
In the book, when Gage comes back, Jud hears Norma's voice coming from Gage's mouth, and she tells him that she *beep* all his friends and they all laughed at him behind his back, and that she also knew about Jud's whores. For those of you who don't know, Norma was Jud's wife.
We'll never know if it was true or not but it might be. There's a part in the book where Jud tells Louis about Timmy Baterman and he describes Timmy as knowing secret things that nobody else apart from the secret holder knew (like Jud's whores for example). Timmy would spit these secrets in peoples' faces, similarly to how Gage spit it in Jud's face, but we'll never know if Norma really did screw his friends or if it was just Gage messing with Jud's head.
The book is so amazing.
The above poster is just playing around.
There's no mention whatsoever of Louis cheating on Rachel.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.
Well, not in the movie. But in the novel, there is a brief passage of Louis' internal dialog where he does mention hiring a prostitute on one occasion. He instantly regretted it and never wanted to stray again. I forget where exactly it's mentioned, but I definitely read it.
I distinctly remember Jud saying he visited prostitutes on several occasions.
He even justifies it to himself.
But I do not recall any dialogue about Louis doing so.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.
Louis was also something of a punk, so there was that as well.
shareIn the novel it's after Louis speaks to Victors father on the phone in chapter 20.
Direct quote:
"Louis still remembered the dream and the sleepwalking incident that had accompanied it, but it now seemed almost as if it had happened to someone else, or on a television show he had once watched. His one visit to a whore in Chicago six years ago seemed like that now;''
In the book, the hatred came mostly from the father - as someone else has replied, he tried to buy Louis off to keep him from marrying his daughter. They thought he just wasn't good enough for their little princess. They hated Louis for "making" Rachel work as a waitress to support the two of them while he was in school. Rachel didn't seem to mind, though. They were also angry Louis took Rachel and the kids away from them in Chicago and to Maine. Towards the end of the book Irwin tells Louis that after Zelda died, they wanted to keep their surviving daughter all to themselves. So it was a combination of Rachel's parents (mostly the dad, in the book the mom, Dory wasn't so hateful) being snobs and their guilt over losing Zelda and not treating either Zelda or Rachel right before Zelda died. I can't remember if this is in the movie or not, but the parents lock Zelda up in a back room, basically hiding her, and make little 8 year old Rachel help take care of her. When Zelda finally dies, Rachel is home alone with her because her parents are out visiting some friends. Of course, Rachel is terrified of and terrorized by Zelda and for her entire life, as well as completely unable to even discuss death. In the book that's PART of the reason Louis goes along with burying Church in the sour ground, so Ellie won't have to deal with death, and so Rachel doesn't get all freaked out. Irwin was just basically a total a-hole, and Dory kind of went along with it. In-laws from hell, both in the book and movie.
shareAnd then when Irwin picked that fight at Gage's FUNERAL..Not simply punching him or desecrating the ceremony, but what he SAID, digging a knife into Louis' grief by blaming him when he went through the horror of seeing his child die before his eyes..I'm amazed Louis forgave him even remotely after that.
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