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Is anybody sick of gut-wrenching arthouse flicks based on stupid premises?

Isn't it sweet? The quadrapalegic has a soul after all.

It makes you wonder whether a talent like Lewis could have been better spent on a more useful premise, something other than the triumph over adversity/underdog/handi-capped talent thing. How many times have we seen the retarded genius? Rainman anyone? It's always meant to turn a spotlight on your humanity, but I get bored stiff every time. I mean after all the monumental drudgery of watching this guy suffer on the screen, and the best they can come up with is this guy has a poetic spirit lurking under limp limbs?

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You are aware that this is a true story ? Or are you taking the Piss.

"this wee lassy got glassed and no c%$t leaves here till we find out what c*&t did it"

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I think his talents were very justly used. For some very sheltered provincial people, this is the only exposure they may have to the humanity that "lurks" inside a person with a disability. Speaking as the mother of a disabled child, sometimes giving these half-wits a movie as an example is the only way to start a dialogue. Sorry it wasn't amusing or informative enough for you ...

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though i agree with you to some extent that hollywood has tried again and again to use a variety of mental illnesses in order to gain more popularity. and it opens itself as a proven opportunity for both directors and actors to try and win an oscar.

BUT, this is hardly the case with 'my left foot' since its neither a hollywood production, nor some flashy movie to show off acting talent.

both Director Jim Sheridan and Daniel Day Lewis are at their best in this film, as it is truly a wonderful piece of cinema. I dont think this was an attempt to simply show off or to win any oscars.

Fantastic film and fantastic performances by all involved.

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I think you need to stop driveling on about your opinion on 'more useful premises', and I think you're forgetting that stories about triumph over adversity are often, as in this case, true.
You need to respect the people in these movies-who live(d) and breath(ed)-and you need to realise that real people go through things like being told their child has a form of cerebral palsy, autism, Downs Syndrome, whatever the disorder may be.
If cases like this are left undocumented because there have been films in the same vein before, how are we to assume that these cases would ever get into the spotlight, and the generations become enlightened instead of ignorant?
I respect you have the right to your own opinion, but I do not agree with yours, and I believe your statement "Isn't it sweet?..." was callous, rude and uncalled for.
My twin sister has severe Cerebral Palsy, I have minor CP myself, and I know a lot of people with these sorts of disorder who are talented, funny, and genuinely sweet. But they're also human. Your message seems to suggest that
a) you don't feel people with different abilities from you are worth any sort of thought or recognition because 'it's all been seen before'
b) you think people such as quadraplegics can be talked to in a superior and condescending manner and you can get away with it-which is completely out of order
and c) that talent and 'soul' can only come in those without anything disordered in their lives or bodies-which excludes everybody at one stage or another
Sorry to rant, but I felt I had to reply.

Oh, and P.S: Christy Brown wasn't totally paraplegic-he had some control over his left foot-the English Dictionary states that quadraplegia is "paralysis of all four limbs"-he could technically move his left leg and foot.

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punkstar, I agree with you wholeheartedly and I was somewhat upset by the original poster's comments. I have a mild form CP and although my form is quite mild compared to that of Christy Brown, I can relate to some of his frustrations. He had so many things inside of him and limited ways to express them and I can understand him being a complete prick and an arse sometimes because when you are bitter and mad at the world that can happen. I for one appreciate stories about disabled people (because I am one) but also because their stories give me strength to deal with my own issues and insecurities. For the record he had a soul all along as all people do, but he was angry and afraid, bitter and hurt so he lashed out. Apparently I used to have temper tantrums when I was little before i learned to walk (at age 3) because I didn't like the physical therapy sessions and I wasn't able to walk and move like the other chlidren. I got frustrated and had crying fits and threw things. I was not pleasant. I liked this movie because it showed the reality of things. Disabled people are just these docile constantly happy or out of it beings, they have feelings and some of those feelings are expressed in not-so-nice ways. People who don't know the struggles of disabled people don't understand but I am not here on a crusade for the enlightenment of the "straighter limbbed". I was just sounding off.

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Know exactly how you feel. I'm fortunate in that my CP doesn't really affect me, just my balance and flexibility, but it's always frustrating when you know you're different-especially when others see it too and think they can treat you any way they wish because of that.

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I think you're right.

Except about Rain Man. Rain Man wasn't even about the autistic guy, it was about Tom Cruise's character.

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I apologise for being rude in any way, but I don't think you are being at all fair. A genius is a genius, whether black, white, gay, straight, physically able or disabled. If you dislike this type of film, simply avoid watching it and you will soon find the world is a happier place, both for you and the people who have to listen to your provincial and derogatory whining. Plus, handicapped isn't hyphonated.

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The above post is truly said. :)

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I realize now the import of my statements were taken far too seriously for having somehow been made apply to reality itself--as if I was talking about quadriplegics in general, or those actually suffering from reality, rather than what I was really ranting about--the CHARACTER's of quadriplegics. The fact that we are all made to suffer for this person's sufferings. And don't misread me on that last statement; don't think that because I was saying "we are all made to suffer" means that it is hard to watch him actually go through his sufferings as a paraplegic; no, no, it is the fact that the suffering itself is made to be a stand-in for good honest storytelling. You can substitute anyone who has been made to suffer as a victim and you will see the same thing. Honest to god tragedy has been made to suffer recently because of the mistaken assumption that suffering itself, through an admittedly unfortunate disease, is akin to tragedy.

Let me explain: tragedy comes from within. Hamlet died because he chose to. The why is the essence of tragedy. Nobody would ever choose to be a quadriplegic or have CP, and I would never suggest that. On the contrary, I would wish it to be eradicated for ever and ever. But to suggest that the sufferings of an unfortunate victim of a terrible disease that has been inflicted on him or her through no fault of their own is on a par with literary tragedy is to mistake what tragedy is all about. And yet that is precisely what the modern notion of tragedy is--it is a slackened, lazy conception, and it is irksome to have to see a movie like this win all of these accolades under the rubric of "tragedy"--the common notion of it, I mean, the mistaken notion that all suffering that is "tragic" is therefore tragedy--when in reality it is only about being a victim.

Don't get me wrong. I think one of the worst things is to be afflicted with some lifelong disability that is not your fault, and to be constantly demeaned and misapprehended because of it--I know, in my own way, I can relate. But don't think for a second that outside of my own tribulations, I would think it worth the accolades it has received under the mistaken impression that it represents something else altogether.

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Whoever said that this movie is supposed to be a tragedy? Your posts are what have a stupid premise, not the movie.

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The OP's intent is misunderstood. I think he was saying that a lot of work and talent was used to create a mediocre movie. Instead of just pulling at your heartstrings and pointing at the plight of someone perceived as less fortunate, it could have gone to greater dramatic effect. He was complaining about the quality of such movies in general, and using this movie as yet another illustrative example.

But there is more to this movie than triumph over adversity and the suffering from hardship and disability. There is the story of the journey to a place of equality and recognition, and there is even some tragedy.

The tragedy arose from the fact that people don't listen. They hear what they want to hear and see what they want to see. It is this flaw, this mistake, that caused CB's light to remain hidden under a bushel for so long.

This may even have been the same mistake many posters made in response to the OP's comments.

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A genius is a genius no matter what, yes.

However, that's not what the movie is about. It's not celebrating Christy Brown's genius, it's saying: "LOOK WHAT THE CRIPPLE CAN DO!"

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I can see where you're coming from on that, but I personally think the film was about not just what Christy could (or couldn't) do physically, but the talent that ended up shining through even though he could only use his left foot to express it.

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Is he actually serious? I realize this guy posted this several years ago, but I can't believe he could actually be serious. Folks, this is what they call a "troll".

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Yes, the original poster is a troll and totally wrong. The best thing about this movie was its honesty. It didn't turn this guy into a saint; it wasn't overly sentimental and it avoided mawkish Hollywood cliches. It's an incredible story, anything but mundane.

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