Why did Dalton resign after this one?
I've always wondered this. I could've seen him in one more at least. He was a pretty good Bond. Not one of my favorites like; Connery, Moore, and Brosnan, but I thought Dalton was good.
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Just read an old interview with him
He was supposed to be in golden eye but there were legal issues that delayed the filming by about 3yrs
When the movie was set to go broccoli informed dalton that he couldn't just do one more bond film and wanted ddlton to commit to at least 3 more
Dalton decided that was too large a time commitment and declined
Hence pierce Brosnan
I also think dalton resigns feeling he was getting too old for the role since it was going to come out in 1991
shareUgh...enter the Brosnan era. Easily, the worst four films in the series. Thank god he's gone.
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I Couldn't agree more.
GoldenEye is one of the best, so I'll disagree there. But yeah TND, TWinE, and DAD are all total *beep*
shareExplain to me what is so great about Goldeneye. I've had this debate with friends for years. My theory is this:
- It was the first James Bond film since License to Kill - six years. The longest gap between two 007 adventures.
- It was the first Bond film of the internet age - so first Bond movie to have its own website.
- It was the first Bond movie to have a direct video game tie-in.
- It featured a new face in the role of 007 - which is all Brosnan was in that series - a pretty face.
- It had a HUGE marketing budget - including a making of movie magazine, and life size standees in theater lobbies. Goldeneye's advertising expense was easily twice that of License to Kill.
- Finally, after a six year absence, fans and general audiences were excited for a new Bond picture.
You could have cast anyone in that role for that film, and it would have done well.
I thought that the current "M", Ralph Fiennes, would have been an excellent choice.
There were video games released of The Living Daylights and Licence to Kill in the 1980s. I had them both when I was a teenager !
Dalton said in the summer of 1993, that he would be returning as Bond. Some speculate that he saw the script for Goldeneye in 1994 and didn't like it, too many sci-fi elements, and that made him decide not to come back
Others theorized back in the 1990s that MGM/UA pressured the producers to get rid of him, as they feared that Dalton was not a bankable star like Brosnan was. In other words, because License to Kill was not a hit financially in the U.S. in 1989, MGM/UA was worried that this would happen with Goldeneye, also
Goldeneye is great because it's well written, well acted and well directed. Goldeneye is great because the film revamped Bond in a world post Cold War and it worked. A longer gap between movies doesn't necessarily mean it's a better movie - otherwise DAD would be regarded in a better light, and I'd regard CR and TSWLM in a better light. Also, having it's own website is a product of the time and has nothing to do with GE's success. I also never played the game, so speaking from my own experience, the tie-in game had no impact on the enjoyment of the film. And while I don't know the exact figures for money spent on marketing, I do know that, on average, the marketing budget equals the production budget, so I'm not sure if the marketing budget on GE was different to that on LTK - perhaps with changing times meant different methods and approaches to marketing - one being, as you said a website.
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Ugh...enter the Brosnan era. Easily, the worst four films in the series. Thank god he's gone.
No way! Brosnan's movies, albeit being over the top at times were quite good and more importantly, entertaining. They felt like Bond movies. The worst Bond films are of Daniel Craig. Apart from "Casino Royale" all the other ones were abysmal!
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Yeah, Timothy Dalton was I think, already in his early 50s by the time that GoldenEye came out, and I suppose that the big worry from everybody is that we were going to get another Roger Moore situation.
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No Dalton was not in his 50's. Dalton would not even turn 50 until 1996. Goldeneye was released in 1995.
I thought that the proposed third Dalton Bond movie (before what would become GoldenEye) was going to be called The Property of a Lady.
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That is correct. That was to be made in 1991. By 1993 I think Dalton's contract had expired. They tried to resign Dalton to be in Goldeneye which I think would had improved the film. But He felt too much time had past since the last film and did not resign. Shame,Dalton should had been in More Bond Films.
I'm quite fond of Brosnan (his films are pretty hit-and-miss though) but he was a bit milquetoast out of the gate; I think Dalton would have elevated Goldeneye considerably.
The film needs someone to anchor it who's a bit more assured than 1995 Brosnan. 1999 Brosnan would've been great. But 1995 Dalton...sheeeeeee-it.
I think that's why I'm continually baffled by the rapturous response that Goldeneye generates -- it's got some great things going for it, but on the heels of Licence to Kill and The Living Daylights?
There's no way to be sure of this, of course, but had Dalton made Goldeneye, I suspect he'd have been accepted into the company of Connery as the default greatest Bond. He's already there for me, but I'm talking popular opinion. And no doubt that would've led to at least one more movie.
As you say, shame.
Dalton's contract ended with the legal trouble that happened in the early 90s. However, Cubby still wanted Dalton back once the trouble cleared up, but he only wanted Dalton back if Dalton would commit to three more. By that time, Dalton only wanted to do one more so he declined.
It actually makes sense. While I loved Dalton, and I'd rather have him over Brosnan any day, I can see why they wouldn't want him to come back for just one film after Bond had been off the screen for six years. They really needed an actor who would stay on for several films at that point.
I also understand Dalton's position. He was already 50 at the time, so I can see why he didn't want to sign on for 3 more films at that point.
It's just a shame that the legal trouble occurred during Dalton's tenure as Bond. It really screwed his chances of having a long string of films.
However, the first draft of GoldenEye was written in January of 1994, and Dalton announced his resignation from the role in April 1994. GoldenEye was probably originally intended for Dalton in the early writing satges.
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