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What did the other Bond actors think of this film?


We know that in the Craig era, Roger Moore really liked "Casino Royale" and "Skyfall" - although he did think it was becoming too violent. He also thought that "Die Another Day" was too OTT - and said so at the time. So, did he ever see this film? If so, what did he make of it?

I think Connery doesn't really pay too much attention to Bond - as he has a love/hate relationship with it - thinking it dominated his career too much - and his awkward relationship with the producers.

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I actually read a quote from Sean Connery on his IMDb page that he did not like Timothy Dalton as Bond, but another where he said he liked Daniel Craig.

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I read someplace where Connery said that Dalton's films were "too Shakespearean"

I think that Moore said that he liked Dalton, Brosnan, and Craig

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I read someplace where Connery said that Dalton's films were "too Shakespearean"

I seem to recall Connery saying at the time that Dalton "didn't move right" as Bond -- that his physicality wasn't good enough.

Whatever. (Connery, Dalton & Craig are my favorite Bonds.)



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I read someplace where Connery said that Dalton's films were "too Shakespearean"

I believe that was Connery's polite way of saying hammy / you're not on the stage now Timothy!

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"you're not on the stage now Timothy!"

Yep, you took the words straight out of my mouth. I applaud Dalton for wanting to bring the character back to his literary roots by portraying a darker, grittier version of Bond but for me, his acting had a tendency to feel a bit too theatrical and exaggerated in places. The way he conveyed Bond's wrath with that constant firey look and intense gaze in his eyes, felt way too broad and out in the open, especially for a man who's job is to blend in and not draw suspicion.

I suppose one can argue that Bond only behaved the way he did in this film because it was a personal vendetta and all, but really, why is he so damn tense and on edge in the casino with Pam? Bond has done this sort of thing practically hundreds of time now, it should feel like routine at this point and not make him so blatantly jumpy. The fact that he's doing this on his own accord and not under the orders of M shouldn't make him forget all his years of training and experience on the job. In real life, a guy behaving and acting the way Dalton does in this film, would probably make for an absolutely terrible spy, given how bad he seems to be at maintaining his cool.

I think Dalton showed in The Living Daylights that he had it in him to make a great Bond, as that film managed to balance the darker, angrier side of the literary character with the humor and charm of the movie version still largely intact. Here however, it feels like Glen and the writers simply gave too much free reign for Dalton to just let loose and go all out with his thespian tendencies and in doing so, gave us a rather one-note, slightly hammy, borderline unlikable portrayal of Bond.

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The way he conveyed Bond's wrath with that constant firey look and intense gaze in his eyes, felt way too broad and out in the open, especially for a man who's job is to blend in and not draw suspicion.

Very well put! Been a long time since I've seen this film but from what I recall this hits the nail of the head re the problem with Dalton. But you're right that he didn't ham it up as badly in TLD.

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Moore never read the fine print about James Bond being someone who kills people. He was never right for the part

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Moore never read the fine print about James Bond being someone who kills people


Well he obviously did because he often killed people sometimes ruthlessly like the guy in The Spy Who Loves Me who he knocks off the roof.

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Well he obviously did because he often killed people sometimes ruthlessly like the guy in The Spy Who Loves Me who he knocks off the roof.


However: The scene where he kicks the henchman's Merc off a cliff in "FYEO" caused him some concern. Moore actually didn't want that scene to be filmed the way it was. He thought it was too cold-blooded for "his" Bond. Not sure where he says it, but it's either on the commentary track or in the "making of" on the DVD.


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Moore never read the fine print about James Bond being someone who kills people. He was never right for the part

You are completely and utterly wrong about that! Moore's Bond has killed a LOT of people, many in a very ruthless manner. He has the second highest number of kills after Pierce Brosnan. Just in "The Spy Who Loved Me", he killed 31 people.

As for being ruthless, have you forgotten:
1. "The Spy Who Loved Me" - Throws that guy off the roof, then straighten's his tie before calmly walking away.
2. "The Spy Who Loved Me" - Shoots Stromberg in the balls!
3. "For Your Eyes Only" - Kicks the bad guy and his car off the cliff
4. "For Your Eyes Only" - Throws a wheelchair bound man into a giant chimney

Moore was an AWESOME Bond!!!!

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Just look how he killed Kananga in Live and Let Die BOOM!

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Plus (and I was talking about this the other day or would never have thought of it), Moore is one of only two Bonds to actually kill a woman directly. In Spy Who Loved Me, he blows the female chopper pilot up with a missile. Maybe not super ruthless, but he is one of two Bonds to directly do it. Brosnan directly shoots Elektra King in World Is Not Enough (and I do not count Xenia in Goldeneye as he shot the chopper, not her, and though it caused her to die, the direct result was simply that she was pulled off him - the death was actually just a happy and somewhat BS coincidence).

Cheers mate!

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Yes, one of the commonly made complaints about all the Bond films Sir Roger wrote the screenplays for...

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This doesn't specifically pertain to Licence to Kill, but Roger Moore did once say that the James Bond role was too preposterous to be taken seriously. So I naturally, take it that he didn't care much for Timothy Dalton's attempt to bring a harder edge to his portrayal.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheLivingDaylights

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