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Who suffered a worse death between Vogel or Donovan?


I sometimes wonder about that but between these two I would rather die the way Donovan did than die the way Vogel did since I have a major fear of falling down from high places along with crashing hard into the ground.

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I feel like Vogul's death would be less painful than Donovan's. Once he hit the ground he'd be dead instantly.

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That is so true, I just can't imagine falling down hard and fast knowing that your life is coming to an end.

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We never saw her hit the ground. She disappeared into a fog. Perhaps she’s still falling.

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I remember as a kid I was disappointed to see Elsa die, I didn't realize she was a villain at first though.

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I go with Donovan.

Vogel died as he lived, a soldier meeting death head-on. As a fighting man, he should be well-prepared for such a death.

Donovan, who was not well-prepared for ANY kind of death, wound up dying just inches from his life's ambition, undoubtedly realizing after all his effort he'd just been duped by Elsa into killing himself.

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Somehow I didn't realize Elsa had intentionally picked the wrong grail. I do find it funny in a way cause he probably would hate the actual real one that Indy drinks from.

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true, they didn't spell it out exactly but there was a close-up of her face looking sneaky just before "finding" the phony grail for Donovan

And then her first words after Donovan's death: "It would not be made of gold." So either she just figured it out, or she knew all along it would look like the cup of a carpenter

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The way the camera focuses on Elsa's facial expression as Donovan feels the first ill effects, that proved to me that she picked the wrong grail on purpose. But her comment, "it would not be made out of gold", sounded to me as an honest admission that she was mistaken. But that could be a matter of how she delivered the line. And, of course, how I interpreted it.

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No, she didn't fool him. The whole point of the scene is that she/they went for the shiny object, symbolising their shallowness.

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