When you first saw the sacrifice scene in Temple of Doom...
Did you ever imagine that one day the franchise would be reduced to Mickey Mouse jokes? Honestly the thought never crossed my mind but here we are.
shareAre you talking about SW TLJ ;) ?
shareWhile TLJ totally sucked I am referring to the Mickey Mouse joke in Last Crusade
shareYou are so correct! I completely forgot about it. But I kinda found it funny when I watched it for the first time. And the whole cinema was laughing too then. But yes, there were better jokes :) .
shareThere is no Mickey Mouse joke in the Last Crusade. The name "Mickey Mouse" was mentioned, once, but not as a joke. The joke was that Indy tried to pass himself off as a Scottish lord, and that he failed so miserably the best option was just to knock out the manservant. There are exactly two things in there played for jokes:
1. The beret and the bad Scottish accent
2. "How dare he?" [BIFF!]
And that's it. Tell me, if they had kept Jesse Owens, instead of replacing it with Mickey Mouse, would you then complain that "it was all about Jesse Owens jokes"? You wouldn't, would you, even though that would not alter the humour in that scene one bit.
Personally I don’t think there should have been a joke at all but Jesse Owens at least would require the viewer to know a little bit about history and would have been relevant for the times. It was changed to Mickey Mouse because the four year olds this film was made for would know who that was.
Even ET which was made for kids/families was a more mature film that Last Crusade
I dont quite agree with that. I think Mickey Mouse was a more internationally friendly joke. A lot of non Americans have no idea who Jesse Owens is either.
share"The Temple of Doom" has just as many stupid jokes as "The Last Crusade." The difference is for 20 minutes in the middle "Temple" abandons its humor and becomes an unrelenting exercise in sadism: children tortured, children begging to die, the skins of people used as decorations, severed arms used as decorations, Indy tortured and drugged, Short tortured and slapped around by Indy ... its bleakness becomes something out of "Schindler's List," which is odd since we're suppose to be watching "light" entertainment here (it makes for fascinating viewing all the same). Of course, once Indy is freed from the black sleep, "Temple" abandons its dark tone and returns to being every bit the action/comedy that "Last Crusade" is. So this assertion that "Temple" is so much grittier than "Last Crusade" only holds true if you're referencing its middle 20 minutes.
shareTemple might be close to the same humor level as TLC but it at least has originality to it. TLC, is basically a watered down, comedy version of Raiders.
share"Temple" owes a lot to "Gunga Din" though because that predated the "Indy" era by about 45 years whereas "Raiders," a film "The Last Crusade" draws a lot of its inspiration from, was made several years prior to the third film's release, it's understandable "Temple" would be construed as the more original one. I'll certainly say this about "Temple": its more metal, with its child slavery and heart snatching, than the adult contemporary-feeling "Crusade."
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