I remeber watching this movie on TV 18 years ago.I distinctly remember when Steven comes back home to live with his family. I was totaly freaked out last week when I was watching a show about Famous killers. This episode was about a Serial Killer who killed a three women in a hotel. He was the handy man for the hotel and used that as a roos to get into the room. The killer was Cary Stayner. They even refer to the abduction of his older brother as a child.
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I read something about Cary Stayner in a special People Magazine. I thought, "Isn't that the brother of the kid who was abducted in 1972?" I guess I was right. I wonder how Cary's parents are handling this. First their child Steven gets kidnapped, then is killed in a motorcycle crash, now Cary is a serial killer.
sharei heard cary never did get over his brothers kidnapping
I may not be street wise and all that, but at least I'm not that dumb! Selena Quintanilla:
I read that the parents blamed Cary for Steven's abduction. Especially the father, Dale. Cary was 11 years older than Steven who was 7 at the time. Steven usually walked with his older brother Cary or other kids. But, on that particular day, Steven happened to be walking home alone. If Cary would have been with Steven, his captures would have been less likely to abduct him. The Stayners never let that go, and it tormented Cary endlessly.
shareWhen I heard that Cary was a serial killer, it made me wonder what kind of people the Stayners were. Perhaps Parnell chose Steven as a victim for reasons related to the family's dysfunction. Maybe in his twisted thinking he was saving Steve from abuse and/or he thought the family would be less likely to pursue his apprehension. This is pure speculation.
I remember seeing this movie when it was first shown on TV, and I was so moved by the story. I doubt that the Stayner family were dysfunctional nor did anything to warrant a kidnapper to target them to "rescue" a child. Parnell was a sick individual, period. As far as how the other children's response to all the stress and for years fruitless efforts to find Steven, I think it just happened to affect Cary differently. That family suffered so far beyond what any should have to endure. I was so sad to hear of Steven's accident and death, and it was even more horrible when Cary was arrested for his crimes. I hope the rest of the family can somehow make sense of what happened to them all and endure the rest of their lives as best as could be expected. Prayers and lotz of encouragement.
shareIt is pure speculation. And a load of crap, too.
shareCary was 4 years older then Steven. He was 11, Steven was 7.
shareI know! It's bad enough that poor Steven died tragically in a motorcycle accident. Then his elder bro becomes a serial murderer? Those poor parents, all that they endured.
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Interesting. But I don't think it's that ironic. Yosemite was nearby. I think Steven was even held captive there for a short while. I think Parnell worked there for a little while, if I'm remembering correctly. That might be partly why Cary went on his killing spree there. Who knows?
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I saw it in a special that was on A&E and in an interview with Carey Stayner he said he always knew he was different, and that he had violent thoughts even before Steven went missing. Thats not to say the whole thing didnt affect him, if anything he would have blamed himself most, and then when steven died that would have made everything that much harder.
shareAlso this link is a good one, it is written by someone who knew Steven
http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07/30/steven_stayner/
It's certainly true that Cary felt neglected when his family was grieving over the loss of Steven
I read somewhere that Cary was molested growing up, and his sisters were molested by there father!I was wondering how true that was.I'll try to find the link if anybody wants it to.
shareAlso this link is a good one, it is written by someone who knew Steven
http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07/30/steven_stayner/
thank you for posting the article, it is a very sad one though :(
i was always wondering, what all of steven/dennis' friends felt when they found out about the abduction and molesting..
i hope everyone of them is fine and remember their friend like this Sarah girl does. that he simply had no choice but keep living with that basterd as he was completely brainwashed :(
Correct. Living in Modesto just down the road from Merced this is a story that we all know at least the basics of (and the Peterson case of course). But, I did go back and check the timeline so I didn't give wrong information...
12/1972 Steven is taken by Kenneth Parnell
02/14/1980 Parnell and Sean Poorman kidnap Timmy White.
03/01/1980 Steven is finally able to run away with Timmy and get bak to Ukiah
09/1989 Steven is killed in a motorcycle accident (he had gotten married and had two children in the interim)
In 1990 Cary's uncle with whom he lived, was murdered (this case remains unsolved)
Between 02/1999 and 07/1999 Cary kills four women in Yosemite. There was Carol Sund and her daughter Juli along with an exchange student, Silvina Pelosso, who had been staying with them, and five months later a park employee named Joie Ruth Armstrong.
Cary's family has discussed the chance that he was involved with other murders, at least the murder of his uncle in 1990 and that he may have been involved in more unsolved crimes in the Yosemite area. The biggest reason is not just the suspicions of his family regarding his uncle's unsolved murder, but the fact that when Cary confessed to the way he killed the mother and two teenagers he said that he thought they were easy prey so he went to his room and got his killing kit that had duct tape, rope, a knife and a gun. Apparently it is rare that a first time offender already has a kit prepared in the event he finds a potential victim.
He hasn't been charged with any other murders since he was sent to death row. It's worth saying that Cary has been in prison since July 1999, more time than Steven was held by Kenneth Parnell, and more time than Parnell served for his crimes committed against Steven.
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It is possible and likely that the Stayner family was abusive or high dysfunctional. I'm speculating, but It may be the reason that Steven was such an easy victim for kidnapping. Child molesters are known to have a 6th sense of selecting vulnerable victims from dysfunctional families.
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i think he did, but wasn't parnell also a victim himself when he was younger?
shareIt is possible and likely that the Stayner family was abusive or high dysfunctional. I'm speculating, but It may be the reason that Steven was such an easy victim for kidnapping. Child molesters are known to have a 6th sense of selecting vulnerable victims from dysfunctional families.
That all can be speculation and assumptions the general public really don't know what was the dynamics of the Stayner family.
shareI think the whole Cary Stayner thing was a total coincidence. There were several articles that came out around the time he was caught, with him saying he didn't think the kidnapping had anything to do with it and that he had sexual urges that were mixed with violence way before the abduction and that he more or less had a normal family life.
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