The music in the scene where Nick tears up Sato's hideout is at least half the main theme in Nolan's Batman films.
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Yep, almost exactly. But I love both films, so I don't mind lol.
shareWow! Watching film now and just rewound to that scene. It's indisputable. Love Zimmer though and I don't hold it against him. It's damn good music that didn't get fully fleshed out in favor of a fairly standard 80's track. Glad it got it's reincarnation!
shareBach copied the melody from a few of his concertos and orchestral works and re-used them. Most artists plagiarize their own style or content far more often.
shareI'll have to check this out. It's been awhile since I've seen Black Rain but can picture the scene in my head and almost hear the batman music along with it.
shareIts dead on bro. Very short though.
shareYup, just checked my DVD this morning. Pretty neat. Zimmer has done this before. I kept thinking Inception when I was watching 12 Years a Slave. I believe the theme in question gets traced all the way back to the Thin Red Line. Now we can connect The Dark Knight trilogy with a forgotten gem, Black Rain!
shareHere is a clip from the soundtrack:
http://youtu.be/ncIUFegwcSo?t=2m18s
I definitely heard the origins of the themes in TDK trilogy, and I also heard a little bit of Backdraft in there, too. I don't see it as an exact rip, but it's definitely the foundation for what we heard in the other movies. He's added layers and it isn't as single-tracked in the later films.
On a side note, I always thought it was interesting, Jerry Goldsmith's The Edge, specifically the title track, serves as a good basis for Klaus Badelt's The Time Machine theme, I'm thinking specifically the second half of the "I Don't Belong Here" track. Just like in this case, they're not exact, but one definitely serves as the foundation of the other. Especially in the buildup and the little synth/flute "chirps" for lack of a better word once it gets into it.
I can see it coming from the same composer, but it's interesting another composer lifted material within such a short span of each other (6 years if I remember right). Happens all the time.
The Edge - Lost in the Wild
https://youtu.be/gLgneb6UTOg?list=PLDB8BE037418D7D57
The Time Machine - I Don't Belong Here
https://youtu.be/SjB_oMgtaq8
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Even Bach re-used the melodies from his concertos a couple times. Most artists plagiarize themselves more often, either in style or content.
shareYeah nothing wrong with self-plagiarism, it's when you rip-off/copy others that you have gotten into bad territory.
shareAnother song I noticed recently: Guns N' Roses "You Could Be Mine" sounds very similar to their cover of "Black Leather" in rhythm and style. Maybe the band they covered had the style first, but comparing those two songs it sounds like a self-plagiarism. I have not heard the original of "Black Leather" yet.
shareMany prolific composers reuse similar melodies and cues. I collect film scores, and it's noticeable across the board. Sometimes this gets more pronounced when the composer works with other collaborators, like Zimmer's work with James Newton Howard or Klaus Badelt.
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