Alicia Hunt was kind of like a proto-Harley Quinn
Being the Joker's girlfriend and even ending up looking a bit like him. Only unlike the latter, she couldn't take his madness and instead took her own life
shareBeing the Joker's girlfriend and even ending up looking a bit like him. Only unlike the latter, she couldn't take his madness and instead took her own life
shareAlicia was one of the many things in this movie that would have made such a bigger impression if written much better.
shareIts not exactly a SPOILER when the movie's 27 years old. Kinda like "Rosebud" being a **********
shareThe prototypes of Harley Quinn are the Moll characters of the 60s show and Duela Dent aka the Harlequin.
shareAlicia was actually based off of one of Black Mask's girlfriends far closer than any Harlequin, who has been around since the Golden Age. Harlen Quinzell was simply another in a long line of those whom she has much more in common with than either Alicia or Black Mask's woman.
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I appreciate you looking for links but I don't see Alicia as being a proto Harley Quinn. Alicia ends up more like one of the grinning newsreaders in what she means to him. "You can't make an omelette without breaking some EGGSXX.."
Alicia appears to be a symbol of the 80s greed that the Joker ends up wanting to defeat. (he tells us she killed herself. If so (rather than being pushed) , probably because, in his artist phase, he wouldn't give her any more money and then she'll have had to try to reason/argue with someone who was live-wirely creative and against her gangster's moll values) She was Grissom's younger girlfriend, remember. She goes where the money and power are. She's consumerist, coming in laden with shopping.
Harley Quinn (as in Harleqin - the name speaks for itself. She is - or has become - a true pixieish, acrobatic, circus-like personality) has street style, ie doesn't appear overtly consumerist, and she loves the Joker rather than being financially dependent on him. They're like Romeo and Juliet - or the Jack and the Heart in a set of cards.
Harley Quinn not consumerist? Then why in SUICIDE SQUAD does she smash a window in order to shoplift? And she obviously spent a lot of money on makeup, hair dye, tattoos, and fishnet stockings - or had "Mister J" spend it for her. And for that matter, the SUICIDE SQUAD Joker appears to be more powerful in Gotham's underworld than even Jack Napier was; at the very least, he's living a far more lavish lifestyle. I'm sure he spoils Harley at least as much as Grissom did Alicia.
And "following the money?" The novelization said that Alicia was a model and personally bought all those pieces of art in her apartment. As for Harley, she was a psychiatrist and surely must have made good money from doctor's fees in order to be considered prestigious enough to be assigned to the Joker.
I just mean that Alicia's more stereotypically consumerist in a grown up, sophisticated, muted colour palette, 80s way - the kind of thing that Joker battles against with his 'free money' and his pop art statements. Whereas Harley Quinn is more 'new wave' punk, more pop art, even if she's well off.
shareNo one really goes into psychiatry for the money. Pre-Harley, Dr. Quinzel was a super-smart, albeit disturbed woman. Alicia, by contrast, was a shallow, materialistic bimbo and famous/rich supermodel, and thus, a symbol of 80s consumerism.
Unlike Harley or Catwoman, Alicia didn't have to steal, at least not literally, in order to be dressed in furs and fine jewellery, and she wasn't committing vandalism against the system. She and her ilk, were the system.
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I've always believed that Joker lied about that and that he 'helped' her.
All for a box of chocolates...
I'm kind of surprised Harley Quinn wasn't in this film or Nolan's The Dark Knight.
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