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The actors hated the monorail episode


According to the voice of Lisa.

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I thought it was a good episode.

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Harry Shearer probably hated it because, well, he hates everything, but I doubt the others did. It is one of the best episodes.

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Did she state why they hated it? Was it just that they didn't like the episode or did it just take a long time to produce for some reason or something behind the scenes that was the reason the hated it and not the episode itself. Or just sick of fan questions or quotes from it. I could understand if it was something like that, but given that it is one of their most loved and recalled episodes I find it hard to believe that they all hate the episode itself.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_vs._the_Monorail#Reception

Conversely, the episode was not initially well received by many fans of the show's earlier seasons, as it was a particularly absurd early example of the show taking a more joke-based cartoon approach to comedy, rather than the more realistic situational style of comedy it had employed in its first few years.

In 1995, during the production of the seventh season, Yeardley Smith said of the episode as "truly one of our worst – we [the entire cast] all agree".
[source - Jim Schembri (6 July 1995). "My life as Lisa". The Age (Green Guide). Melbourne, VIC. p. 10.]


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Yes, I missed the realism of the early shows. They had such plots as:

Homer rescuing a greyhound on Christmas Eve and the dog instantly bonds with the family.

Homer is seriously injured and rushed to the hospital after an encounter with an exploding can of beer.

A troubled large white man who thinks he is Michael Jackson.

The family shutting down the power of Springfield by over using the shrink's electric feedback training machine.

The family car being eaten by the Truckasaurus, with the family in it, and then Homer goes on to survive plunging down a sheer 60 (100?) foot cliff, twice.

These are all things that happened in my family a couple of times each month (rolling my eyes).

I know, I don't blame you, you are just the messenger. But such entries undermine the credibility of Wikipedia, or the public. Maybe that's the same thing.

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Have you ever visited SNPP.com? At that site, they have what they call 'episode capsules', which collect a bunch of comment that were made by fans on their forum on or shortly after each episode was shown.

If you read those episode capsules, you'll be surprised to see that many of the 'classic' episodes from the first 4 seasons that we today think of as nearly perfect were widely disliked by fans at the time of their original airing, and the #1 complaint, from the very first season, was the lack of realism.


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That's interesting. I guess I'm different. I never expected that an animated cartoon would be 'realistic.' Writers love animation because they can be so grossly unrealistic, and use those unrealistic scenarios to make very valid points.

Of course, I have long known that I view the world differently than what seems typical. The difficult part is to discern if my difference makes me more or less realistic.

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Is Lisa complaining again?

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Saw that coming, miles away.

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Go to your room, Lisa!

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Yeardly Smith is untalented. She can only voice one character and gets paid the same as the others.

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This is why I roll my eyes when people rant and rave about how "awful" something new is. Whether it's new episodes of a show, a new movie, whatever. It may seem bad at the time, but in a few years they decide they like it.

Weren't there people back when season 6 was airing that said The Simpsons wasn't good anymore?

And, hell, no one agrees when the show's "golden age" was lol

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Richard Dreyfuss was embarrassed of Jaws when he was filming it.

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Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Alec Guinness are all pretty vocal about not liking Star Wars. Guinness thought the script was garbage, Ford had been begging to kill off Han Solo since "The Empire Strikes Back," (Hence the reason for Han Solo being frozen in Carbonite, as well as his demise in "The Force Awakens") and the best Carrie could say about it was that it afforded her some nicer furniture. Sometimes, the actors are just standing in the wrong place to appreciate the art properly.


Mark Hamill, on the other hand, seems to be as much of a fanboy as anyone else.



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Well, if they hate it so much. Nobody held a gun against their head and told them to be in it.

And the only reason Fisher is known is because of Star Wars. Not her big role in Blues Brothers.

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Lots of people do jobs they don't like or are particularly proud of.

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It's a B-movie plot at its core, but Ford, Fisher, Guinness, were all class act actors who put a lot of effort into it. More than it seemed to deserved since their acting did a lot to get the franchise off the ground, even more than the effects. The characters remain memorable. The effects just look amateurish in 2016 despite being top of the line in 1977. Never make a movie just because of showcasing effects.

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You don't need to voice several different characters to be talented, you probably don't know this, But Yeardley has a great singing voice.

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For a person who voices only one actor to be paid the same as those who voice more than two dozen characters, and sometimes even voice every single character in a particular scene, such as Harry Shearer voicing both Mr. Burns and Smithers in the same scene, is unjust. Surely, pay should be based on how many characters you portray.

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Equal fair pay is coming around, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL WORLD! Or are you in favor of unequal fair pay? Mmmm...

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If it was truly equal pay, she'd make much less since she only voices one character.

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That would insinuate that she is less important, Mila Kunis currently only voices one character, does that mean she is untalented and deserves to be paid less? Hash tag Unions.

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I call the big one "Bitey."

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LOL! My favorite line from the whole episode.

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Heh, even the writers/producers laughed at that one (if you listen to the audio commentary).

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One of the most disliked episodes at the time of it's airing? Great examples of stick in the asses always existing.

I don't put much worth in what the actors think. They have a skil some more than other to voice different sounding people. It doesn't mean jack when it comes to knowing what works for the Simpsons.

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It's surprised me, but, IME, the Monorail episode can be pretty polarizing even among older fans of the show. I recall absolutely loving it when I saw it in first run, and would consistently rank it as one of the best episodes of the series. Earlier this year I went back and watched it for the first time in probably about a decade, though, and it left me pretty luke warm. Still funny, but, nowhere near as hilarious as I remembered it. I laughed much louder and harder at other episodes in that season. On the other hand, I know there are fans who had the same reaction to it in its' first run, but now rank it as one of the best (if not the best) in the series. I think the episode might make for an interesting litmus test of changing sense of humor over time.

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Surprising, but I can see how many involved at the time may have been sceptical. It has a film-plot more than that of a sitcom. So glad they took a chance and made the show more daring. It's a TV classic, even among non hardcore fans of the show.

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It has a terrible ending in the same vein as some of the new episodes endings but the rest of the episode is brilliant

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