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I think the goofs got it wrong about the ending.


When Vincent says he returned 4 million dollars, I took it as they revieced 1 million dollars as a reward for returning the stolen jet engine.

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The reward was for $50,000, so yes Vincent did take a million from the suitcase.

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Given the fact that Vincent was supposedly still angry at Julius for making him return the money - I never would have thought they kept a million for themselves AND took the $50,000 reward as well.

What is more likely is that the Beetroot fellar tried ripping Vincent off by giving him the briefcase containing only $4,000,000 instead of the agreed $5,000,000 - remember when he gave the cash to Vincent...

Vincent: Five Million Dollars?
Beetroot: YOU GONNA COUNT IT???
Vincent: Nope!!

That is what I always have assumed, that there was never $5,000,000 in the first place - only 4.

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They only owed the brothers $20,000 to begin with and the way they kept trying to ruff up vincent, do you really think Julius was ready to pay them?

There is no way they could have spent the $1 million and taken a reward for returning the merchandise - since Beetroot was dead, they handed the jet engine back to the rightful owners and just who exactly got the briefcase of money? Hell, if they stole $1 million dollars (the owner of the money was dead now, remember) why not just keep the entire $5(4) million.

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Good point (about keeping all the money), but you forget that it's blood money in a sense made by a dodgy businessman's dirty dealings. Near the end, Vincent (De Vito) mentions having a conscience since he met Julius, so maybe they couldn't bear with setting up their own business from the proceeds of dirty money.
They kept a mil to themselves because that was like their own "personal reward" for returning the money and the jet engine. Keeping all the money, that would've been greedy and the brothers are only out to do good now.
That's how I read into it anyways.

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They did not get a reward...Vincent just took a million off the top.

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or maybe its just a goof?! if they did take the million AND the $50,000 reward, and were left with about $12,000 at the end, then where the hell all that money go?

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It seems simple to me, they got 50,000 reward for taking back the money, of which the only person who knew how much was in the case was Vincent, so from the reward, they paid their debts and had 12,000 left. Then Vincent refers to handing back the 4 million dollars suggesting that he took out 1 million before handing it back, that's between him and us watching, as I see it, even Julius didn't know because he didn't know how much was in the case, he just trusts Vincent.

Cher: Would you call me selfish?
Dee: No, not to your face.

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I agree with talk2dom. on this. Vincent would not have been able to resist skimming the million and to be on the safe side would not have told Julius until much later (so the ingenuous Julius would not get to insist on returning it).

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This is the way I see it...
Vincent and Julias were given the reward for the return of the engine
Vincent took the one million out of the suitcase, without Julius knowing

This is why Julius does not react to Vincent saying
"four million dollars"

its because Julias doesn't know that Vincent took the money

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Seriously, guys? Vincent took the million. Julius probably didn't know he took it, so that's why Vincent emphasized the FOUR in four million dollars. Plus, that's why he said he was "proud of himself" and then gave a little happy face.

Julius didn't know how much money was there. No one did but Vincent. Vincent said it was four and kept a mil because he knew Julius wouldn't.

That's the joke.


"Things fall down. People look up. And when it rains, it pours." - Magnolia

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He's right. he did take a million. I just watched it on ITV this MINUTE. The maths just doesn't work out unless vince tooke the million. On a note of realism 50 million just wouldn't buy that kind of office. Who cares? Just a rancid 80's film, anyway.

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Wow do you guys need a roadmap to this movie or what.
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Here, here - I can't understand how you lot don't get it - Vincent obviously skimmed a million off the top and Julius knew / lets him.

IT'S SO OBVIOUS - I CAN'T BELIEVE THERE IS AN ACTUAL THREAD WHERE PEOPLE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO NOT TO GET THIS.

There is no gaff or blooper, it's just plain obvious.

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i agree with what stephen_falken posted above

theer is a major goof in this movie.

to whom did they return the money too? the guy was dead

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I do believe that Vincent (DeVito) did take the Million dollars, without Julius' knowledge. The smirk Vincent gave when he mentioned the amount "4 million dollars" was just him hiding the fact that he knew there was actually $5million in the case. Julius (Schwartenegger) didn't know that there was $5mill.


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I think Julius knew full well that Vincent took a million but after all they've been through he let it slide. Pretty obvious with the dialogue between the two at the end.

"Do we get to win this time?" -- John Rambo

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Vincent took $1million out of the suitcase before going back to save Julius from Webster.....long before Webster met his demise with the chains.
Although we did not see Vincent taking it out, I did note that when he opened the suitcase to Webster, there was definitely less money in it.
Neither Julius, nor Linda, knew how much Vincent was supposed to be paid for delivering the 'merchandise'....so no-one else, still alive, knew how many millions, exactly, was in the suitcase.

The contents of the suitcase would have been, in all likelihood, ill-begotten money anyway, and so handing it over as evidence would have been, to Julius's mind, the right thing to do. In keeping with Vincent's character, he would have let Julius be none-the-wiser.

The $50,000 reward was for the return of the 'merchandise'.


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I'm ashamed of myself for even getting to the end of this post, since the ppl who posted on this are so pathetic.

I saw this movie when it first came out in California and every single person in the theater laughed when DeVito said they were glad they gave back the "4 million". And this in a theater full of idiots. Of course they took 1 million.

If you need further proof (besides the fact that it's a comedy) do you really think the bad guy businessman would have risked his life by trying to screw the killer guy over 1 million?

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Excuse me, but I don't appreciate being called pathetic! And I'm sure no-one else here does either!
If you disagree with what is said, then just simply offer your own thoughts -- thats what a 'discussion' board is all about!

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who know's? nobody on this board for sure,as they werent part of the film or the directors thoughts. Personally i think theyre is 2 logical arguements for discussion, one is that vincent took a million out sometime when julius wasn't there or something and if you take a look at vincents face at the end when he is saying 4 million he just looks as if he could well have a little stash to himself or whatever but i think that would go against the vibe the film is trying to give off at the end that vincent is now reformed etc. I personally think we were given the impression that julius brings out the best in vincent and also that vincent has changed at the end of the film, from a dirty rotten thief, coniving bad person who you wouldn't trust as far as you could throw to a good brother and father who is now happy that he is re-united with his mother at the end.

Another way it could also be interprated is that it wasn't a goof and also that he didn't steal the money, but at the end when julius mentioned the money, we are supposed to believe that vincent doesn't care about the money anymore to the point where he actually misquotes the amount of money that was actually there and i have always thought that one could also be quite a tangible arguement, besides..if vincent did actually steal 1 million dollars then he wouldn't exactly have been able to hide it from julius obviously, he would have been caught, although its up to anyone to give theyre interpritation of the film.

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Vincent obviously took some of the money for himself. You can tell by his tone and his facial expression. I thought that was pretty obvious the first time I saw them film..... when I was 7.

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Agreed. And for anyone who doesn't understand this, THAT's why it's pathetic. How do you accomplish anything in life if you can't figure out what was made so blatantly obvious. I used to think Hollywood was wrong to dumb down movies. Now I realize that it's necessary. And for anyone who doesn't understand what I'm saying because I was too subtle (about as subtle as the end of this movie was), I'll spell it out for you: you are stupid if you can't figure out that Vincent took the money without Vincent saying "I took the money".

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Absolutely. This thread was very disturbing to read. Vincent skimmed a million dollars, and Julius didn't know about it. How much more obvious did they need to make it?

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Obviously Vincent took a million out of the case. Did anyone catch his reaction when he said 4 million dollars? sheesh....

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Yep. When I watched this as a kid I thought that too. I didnt have any moral issues with them taking it also, since at the end of the movie they set up a non profit organisation to help people. Duh.

Is it okay steal from murderous thugs and give it to charity ?

Absolutely.




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I wouldn't normally respond to such a long and old thread but SHEESH!

It's so very, very obvious.

Vincent told Julius that the suitcase contained $4 million dollars.

They hand it back. Vincent keeps the $1 million. Julius doesn't know. Vincent hasn't changed into a completely different person.

Watch the scene - the way he keeps saying $4 million makes it obvious.

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It's been confirmed, it was a mistake. There was no skimming. So all you people calling everyone else stupid, how do you feel now?

How I rate movies: 5 stars=F,6 stars=D,7 stars=C,8 stars=B,9 stars=A.1-4 stars are very bad.

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Confirmed as a mistake by who? The movie going public?
The first time and every time I see this movie I think its blatantly obvious that Vincent `scooped` off $1m from the much emphasied FIVE MILLION Beetroot was paying for the merchandise. This much is true.
At the end of the movie, once again we have emphasis placed on the words FOUR MILLION DOLLARS when Vincent is talking about returning the money.
Julius is innocently oblivious to this `scooped off` money.
Thats the final joke at the end and I think if you don't get it from that being so obvious, then it's no wonder Hollywood continue to dumb down plots for the wider mass.

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This was confirmed as a mistake by Devito himself, he said he'd been drinking that day and Arnie was high on Methaqualone so no one noticed.

How I rate movies: 5 stars=F,6 stars=D,7 stars=C,8 stars=B,9 stars=A.1-4 stars are very bad.

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It's been confirmed that Twins was actually a remake of Citizen Kane.

See? Unless you provide a source to back up your claim, your statement hardly holds any weight.


"Things fall down. People look up. And when it rains, it pours." - Magnolia

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