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part of the USA living in the stone age in 1988?


Im watching this movie right now on netflix, im 17 minutes in and i couldnt help myself but pause the movie and come here write a few lines.

First thing first im am not from the USA, but to my knowlegde in 1988 there were no part of the usa still living in the stone age lol, i know what a hillbilly and a redneck is but this was push to another level completly i mean, when theses city kids first show up, one of them tell another one not to take a picture of the guy on the side of the street by fear he goes apeshyte and try to kill them, then once they get to the store, there is this old guy that show up to the store with is old pick up from the 30's with his 4 or 5 kids in the back of the truck, they are all clothed in rag,i think even one or 2 of them didnt have shoes, missing teeth, have dirt all over there faces and all seem to have skipped a shower or 2 to stay polite. then, the few non-douche city kid start taking pictures( like some inconsiderate or inexperienced tourists do when traveling in countries from the 3rd world) of them and talk to them like they are retarded, and one of the kid ask the woman what she is holding, OMG, the kid doesnt know what a kodak is.........17 minutes in and its already over the top ridiculous..cant wait to watch the rest of this flick!

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Bonjour Breakwood!

It's a LITTLE exaggerated, but it isn't too far from the truth in some cases with the "stonge age" thing. I'm from North Carolina and we definitely have our fair share of hillbillies and rednecks and beyond in some areas around here. Especially when you get up into some of the rural areas in the mountains of North Carolina, and other states in this area like Virginia and West Virginia. You can find people that don't have running water, telephones, TV, or indoor plumbing. They grow their own food and raise their own live stock for meat and such, their nearest neighbor is miles away, etc. I've been through some parts of West Virginia that look like they're about 100 years behind the times. Heck just recently I went up to the mountains and DID see an old guy driving a beat up pick up from probably the 40's. It was rusted and looked like it was about to fall apart. A couple of years ago authorities found a shack in the middle of the mountains, and the guy was dead inside and nothing left but a skeleton. They determined he had been dead about 5 years. People knew of him but said he was a hermit and only came to town maybe once every couple of years if that. He was a hermit that "lived off the land" and would shoot at anyone that came onto his property. So they all left him alone.

Now in 2012 for people not to know what a camera is might be a stretch, but there definitely plenty of "mountain folk" still out there that don't live too much different than what's shown in the movie.

Now about the movie! It is corny and a little over the top. But to me it's still a cool story!

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thanks for your answer! didnt know about that! quite fascinating! and yeah, the movie was great, im a big fan of the horror movies from the 70's and 80's , so by definiton im a guy who like over the top and corny movies :) its just that particular scene made me laugh so much cause i thought the director exagerated wayyyyyyyyyyy to much, but since your saying is depiction was not to far from the truth, i guess i have to retract myself :) a la prochaine!

p.s i thought this scene was over the top but later on when ed goes in " town" , with all these barefoot peoples clothed like in 1800 and all dirty with th pigs walking loose everywhere i almost choked on my beer :)

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ericco79 is correct on that. There isn't a major city in the entire USA that you can't find a deep woods community/hillbilly type within a two hour drive. I'm in Pennsylvania in a city of 100,000 and in 30 minutes I can reach a "community" where the plot of Deliverance(1972) could possibly still happen in 2013. A place where population is counted in teeth not people! I'm not sh!tting you I'm deadly serious. The place portrayed in this film is absolutely possible in 1988.

Even now it seems 1 in 5 horror films I watch has a truck from the 30-40s driven by crazy killer inbred cannibal hillbillies, it's one of the longest running cliche's in American horror film history.



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There are PLENTY of places in NC,like the second poster said, who are very close knit, isolated, and very religious. And these people are the salt of the earth. You can find these places mainly in the mountains and on the coastal plains of NC. I guarantee you, they still exist.

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where in PA?

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Scranton area

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Scranton area


Whatever you do, avoid Schrute Farms. They are especially creepy and out of touch with modern society/reality. I did think the towels and handsoap made from beets were rather charming, though.

Anyone here mentions Hotel California dies before the first line clears his lips.

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That Schrute Farms website is confusing it says go ahead and read and add all of the reviews you want because they are all fictitious? Is it all a joke or what? The site:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g52842-d730099-Reviews-Schrute_Farms-Honesdale_Pocono_Mountains_Region_Pennsylvania.html#REVIEWS

This quote from the top of it's tripadvisors page:

Message from TripAdvisor:
As seen on NBC's The Office. Have fun reading these reviews - go on, add your own! Just don't try to book a visit here, because this fictional place doesn't really exist.
Schrute Farms


I'm either not in on the joke or fail to see wtf is goin on here.


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It's a joke about the NBC show "The Office". One of the characters "Dwight Schrute" owns a Beet farm/bed and breakfast. For more info, here's the Wikipedia link, scroll down or select "Schrute Farms".....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Schrute#Schrute_Farms

Hope that helps (:

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As someone else has kindly pointed out, it's a joke/reference to The Office, which was based in Scranton, PA.

Anyone here mentions Hotel California dies before the first line clears his lips.

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Here we go again...

The characters you are referring to in this movie are hillbillies, not rednecks. As unbelievable as it is to the arrogant elitists of the 'civilized' world, the social structure of the less densely populated areas of the world is actually quite complex. Redneck is not the derogatory term you think it is, but your inability to understand it, which inevitably leads to constant and blatant misuse, is somewhat insulting. What you think are rednecks are hillbillies, white trash, and a dozen other classes you can't even comprehend, let alone begin to understand.

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Oh, give me a break...
If your post was intended to make readers laugh, you succeeded.

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LOL! I was thinking the same exact thing, Breakwood83!

There was no way those kids could be that dirty and those people could be living that bad.

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There are people like this in the US...yes believe it or not. Poor people still exist...they live in the cities and they live in the mountains and the hills...and they look just like the people in this movie.

Do some research people.

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Just wanted to echo some of what has been said here. The costuming was slightly over the top -- only by a little -- but a lot of what I saw rang true. I grew up in rural VA, where VA, WV, Tenn., and KY converge (don't envy me too much). It's a place of poverty, distrust of city folk, and a surprising amount of superstition that somehow often coexists with strongly held Christian beliefs. In a lot of ways, it really is a forgotten third world country -- a series of them really -- nestled right into the middle of the U.S. As another poster noted, you can find such areas within easy driving distance of many cities. I've come to view most of the people there as very well meaning people who do the best with the little they have in terms of resources and education. No part of me regrets leaving, though. I'm not surprised at all that people from other countries would question the veracity of the film's depiction -- it just isn't talked about much outside of horror films and the occasional PBS documentary series.

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I live in West Tennessee and yes, there are a few backwoods types, mainly older country folks. They certainly do not represent the vast majority of Southern people any more than Death Wish represents big city life. Movie directors/writers always feel the need to stretch real life settings.

I certainly would not classify the areas you mentioned as a "forgotten third world country". We have the internet, satellite TV, cellphones, malls and A/C!

So let's not simplify life here & we won't denigrate big city life (as dirty, crime- ridden, over-taxed, slums and gang-infested).

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I wasn't denigrating life anywhere. I've lived both. Perhaps you and I have had different experiences in those parts of the world -- things vary a lot by region and by which industry used to prop up the place (and whether it has pulled out), but don't you try to step and tell me what I know. I grew up in a trailer in a holler in Va. and will speak my piece, thank you.

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PS -- watch stuff like this -- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/interactives/healingfields/ -- people waiting a whole year to see a doctor when they have pressing health conditions and tell me it doesn't remind you of life in another country.

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You did deingrate life here in the South by saying we are "distrustful" and we are "a surprising amount of superstition that somehow often coexists with strongly held Christian beliefs. In a lot of ways, it really is a forgotten third world ..."

I could equally point to areas of New York City, Chicago and Detroit (and many others) where vacant buildings litter the landscape, illegal aliens and gangs roam the streets, schools are filled with drugs and violence, etc.

You can find almost anything if you look long enough to liken any part of the South as a "third world country" is insulting & stereotyping. That would be like me comparing New York City to a thug-filled, violent city b/c of the movie Death Wish.

And yes you (and I) can speak our piece- no one said you couldn't. But stereotyping & smearing a region based on a silly movie is immature.

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I grew up in a very rural area of Northeastern Kentucky, right on the West Virginia border, in the '70s and '80s. I lived right in the heart of coal country. While there were many, very poor people in the area, I never saw anyone who dressed or acted like the 1930s-esque family in the old pickup truck. There were plenty of people wearing thrift-store clothes, faded Molly Hatchet concert T-shirts, and ripped jeans driving 20 year old pickup trucks, but I never ran across any barefoot, ragged-dress- wearing urchins who would have been awed by a camera.

I used to love to wander through the woods as a kid/young man and occasionally stumbled across some true, living-off-the-grid hillbillies that literally wore buckskin and furs, but they were living out there by choice, not by necessity. I have no doubt that some of them were probably marijuana farmers, as that was quite the cash crop back then, and remote locations were preferred. They tended to be the unfriendly ones who made it clear that I should just turn around and head right back the way I came from.

One funny story: I remember one year the mining company decided to expand its operations and went around to all the homeowners in my area offering to buy mineral rights to their land. My dad said "no", but you could tell who in the area said "yes". They'd be living in a run down, single-wide trailer but, suddenly, there was a shiny, brand-new Trans Am or Camaro parked out front.

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Dude there are places in the US that are like that now, in 2013. I live in North Carolina and there are some towns like that here, West Virginia , Sourh Carolina and Georgia.

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I have lived in Western Washington my entire life and a few years back a friend and I decided to take a drive towards the Cascade Mountains. There are tons of logging roads and very rural dirt roads scattered all over. We had GPS so we knew we could find our way back, so we kept on going further in. We were maybe 5 miles south of the small town of Rainier and it started to have this ominous backwoods horror movie feel to it. This was only 20 miles from 1-5!

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I'm from San Jose, California, and even there, in the heart of technology (Silicon Valley), you can find scary hillbilly types in the woods just beyond town.

In fact some friends of mine went running on a mountain that overlooks the town, and were held at gunpoint by a guy who supposedly protects the mountain from trespassers. I'm always surprised what you can find in the hills.

I've also lived in West Virginia, and Maryland, so I guess I've seen it on both sides of the country.

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