Terrible ending


"nnooooooooo, noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" If you wanted a turning point where this movie series went completely downhill, this is it.

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No (Pun intended). The franchise went downhill with 5, psychic links, clown cops, man in black, crying and super Myers house.

How is the fact that Jamie became the new Michael and Loomis reacting to that bad? In the original, he already did the "I knew this would happen" look. Here, after setting him on fire in II, having Michael shot all to hell and buried, where he belongs, just for Jamie to pick up the knife, how else was he supposed to react? And keep in mind up til then she was an innocent 7 year old girl, not a murderer (as the writers of 4 intended, til 5 retconned it).

Yes, he could've reacted differently, but it's strictly your opinion what is better or worse. Take it or leave it, it was what it was. When in truth the franchise nosedived a year later. You don't get to be the #1 movie in America 2 weeks in a row off a bad ending. Word of mouth would spread too fast and the drop would've been the following week.


"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

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I actually like 5 even though they should have gone with Jamie as the killer.

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I disagree. Jamie as the killer is one of the most laughably bad ideas I have ever heard. It would have been utterly rejected by fans just like Friday The 13th Part 5 was, which led to Jason returning next time around. Nobody wants someone else being the killer in the Halloween franchise anymore than they did in the Friday series. And if they made Michael and Jamie a team, it would have been even worse!

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I think Jamie should have not talked and been in a state of shock or just sit there like how Michael did as a child..then maybe later come to her senses.

Would have been cooler if it was like part 2 and years later she's at the institution and a teenager and she freaks out and attacks a staff member or Michael shows up and goes on a rampage like in part 2. Jamie escapes with another patient sure Billy and they are attacked by Michael who kills Billy and Jamie ends up still in her hospital dress and at a Halloween party and Michael starts to kill people there.


Okay I'm tired it's 1 am. Lol.

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Mmm, not necessarily true. Take into account when it was made. Word of mouth wasn't as speedy as today.

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I thought it was cool..

I know she touched his hand which was stupid on her part knowing he was an evil killer.

Then I guess she got the touch of evil once she was upstairs and stabbed her foster mom....:\

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This series went downhill after part 2 and it never regained strength!!!

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Yep, and two was bad enough.....

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I'm just disappointed they didn't stick with the original formula and had to "up their game" with more blood. Really didn't need it.


"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

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I own it but never got around to reading it. Heard things about it that really didn't interest me. Like how the Myers parents died (car accident). I am funny about adaptations, because 1. It didn't make it onscreen for a reason and 2. If it's not in film it's not "canon" to me. I'm afraid it'll be just excess details the writer put in to fill pages that strays from Carpenter's actual script (which I own 1-9 aka Rob Zombie's Halloween) I did read those just to see what the actual writers put in that didn't make the cut/deleted scenes/etc.

Slightly OT I'm surprised in today's book heavy world that 5-10 didn't get book adapatations like 1-4 did. I only own them for the collection value, don't hold much stock in their pages though. Just my fan way of doing things.


"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

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The ending is purely a stunt and a belated attempt to stylistically align itself with JC's Halloween. The psychic connection/transfer of energy stuff is vague as hell and less than interesting.

I mean, she spends the entire film terrified of the thought of Michael. Then by the presence of Michael. Then by the fact that Michael is killing everyone around her including the men who are trying to help her escape.

But then when her step-sister stops him in his tracks, and tells her to stay in the truck where it's safe from the guy she's terrified of, she suddenly wants to walk up and shake his hand?????!!!!

It's like Chief Brody suddenly deciding that maybe the shark isn't the one that ate all those bathers and is just swimming up to plant a little kiss on him at the end of Jaws.

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Hahaha

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You are my spirit.

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No different than the reaction Friday the 13th The New Beginning received for its attempt.

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Part 5 in my opinion was the turning point. Too many disappointing plot threads and the Cult of Thorn was just stupid.

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Agreed. Having it come out a year later was a huge mistake. It needed more time to develop and more polish. Less rushed and not as messy.


"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

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I like it. The evil lives on!

But they couldn't resist bringing Michael back yet again.

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I think the original idea was to have Jamie become the killer and Michael to finally be dead and buried in the mine shaft. But it was easy to find a cop out for Myers to live, so they rolled with him again in H5. I wish the movie had ended after Myers getting shot and falling into the mine.

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'I think the original idea was to have Jamie become the killer'

I wish they'd gone with that instead of backpedaling as they did in H5.

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