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The truth behind the movie cocktails


Bryan Brown has a chapter on him in the book Aussiewood and he claims in the book that the original script for cocktails was brilliant. Unfortunately the studio became too involved in the creative process and decided to chop and change the script. For example in one scene where Tom Cruise was to be punched in the face they decided to cut it from the movie because they suggested hitting Cruise's face and leaving a mark would "make the film less marketable". Brown said that the studios completely wrecked the movie.

When Brown went to the premier and saw the end result he abruptly walked out of the theater and he decided not to try capitalize on his cocktails fame for Hollywood because he was so disillusioned from the experience.

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Um, that was a little hard to follow. How did we get from the studio getting "there" hands on it to hitting Tom Cruise?

"Seems most IMDb users believe their own opinions are fact and all others' are wrong." ~Me

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Well azumahh didn’t seem to have any problem understanding my post. Oh and I spelt "there" instead of "their" oh how embarrassed am I, I could just die. Mate if you don't have anything worthwhile and insightful to post then please don't bother posting. It's not my problem that you have nothing better to do then nit-pick at posters spelling.

Also that little quotation that you put in your post down below is *beep* What I posted in my original post was in the book Aussiewood. Bryan Brown made the comments, it’s not my opinion it’s a fact. Have you read the Book Aussiewood? Do you have any proof that I'm making it up? If you have not read the book then get your facts right before you speak, here is a link to the book that I am referring too. I highly recommend the book its a fantastic read. It has stories and interviews of all the great leading Australian actors and directors that made it big in Hollywood.

http://www.amazon.com/Aussiewood-Australias-Directors-Conquered-Hollywood/dp/1865089710

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To davcar-1,

Thanks for sharing that.I agree that the first part of the movie was good especially when it focused on Bryan Brown's Dough Couglin and Tom Cruise's Brian Flanagan and their relationship with each other.When the movie shifted to the love story between Tom Cruise's Brian Flanagan and Elisabeth Shue's Jordan Mooney particularly when Brian dumps Jordan for a "rich chick" after another bar bet with Dough,then it went downhill from there.

It should have been a rags-to-riches story of a serviceman who opens another business soon but instead it got focused on a lot of unusual twist and turns (that includes Tom Cruise's hairdo which is a testament to the reversals of the script as reshoots have to be done - LOL) when Bonnie entered the picture.

I know that even Elisabeth Shue was not proud of this film.

Check her thoughts on Cocktail from http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000223/bio/

On Cocktail (1988): "If I'd known that it was just going to be about these guys throwing drinks around, then I might have had some second thoughts . . ."


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But still,eventhough it is not one of the most brilliant films ever made,it remains a cultural piece of the 1980's with the themes presented,the movie's soundtrack and a younger Tom Cruise.

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i agree with jukaswo, it wasn't your spelling it was just hard to follow. You seemed to bleed sentences together...

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Let's just say that you talk like a bumbling fool.

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That's interesting you write that, because I saw the movie the other day and was struck by how well written certain parts of the movies are in contrast with how embarrassingly bad a larger portion of it is.

I actually told my wife at one point that the movie wasn't too far from being very good. It didn't occur to me that the studio may have messed with it, but it makes perfect sense.

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so they watered it down?




today's special: shrimp ceviche!

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so they watered it down?


Hell yeah they watered it down. Screen writer/Author Heywood Gould spill the beans

Q: How did you feel about the studio's requests to make the movie less gritty than the book?

A: (Long laugh) There must have been 40 drafts of the screenplay before we went into production. It was originally with Universal. They put it in turnaround because I wasn't making the character likable enough. And then Disney picked it up, and I went through the same process with them. I would fight them at every turn, and there was a huge battle over making the lead younger, which I eventually did.

I realized β€” and I think I knew all along β€” that the people who wanted me to make the changes were correct. They wanted movie characters. Characters who were upbeat and who were going to have a happy ending and a possible future in their lives. That's what you want for a big commercial Hollywood movie. So I tried to walk that thin line between giving them what they wanted and not completely betraying the whole arena of saloons in general.

I went to a meeting once, I guess I can tell this story, with Michael Eisner, who ran the studio, and Jeffrey Katzenberg, who was the boss, the production head. Someone mentioned that this might be a good vehicle for Tom Cruise. Eisner says, "He'll never do this, don't waste your time, he can't play this part." And then Katzenberg says, "Well, he's really interested in doing it," and without skipping a beat Eisner says, "He's perfect for it, a perfect fit!" That's the movie business: I hate him, I love him; I love him, I hate him! Guess I just buried myself with Eisner now.

Q: What did you think of the movie when it came out?

A: I was not happy with the final product. It got so savaged by the critics β€” and I mean, it got creamed β€” that I can't think of a good review. All the major people whacked it β€” and whacked me too, personally. I was accused of betraying my own work, which is stupid. So I was pretty devastated. I literally couldn't get out of bed for a day. The good thing about that experience is that it toughened me up. It was like basic training. This movie got killed, and then after that I was OK with getting killed β€” I got killed a few more times since then, but it hasn't bothered me.

I remember it was late one night in Vermont this was a couple years after the movie came out, and I was driving and there was a call-in show on the radio and some guy called in who was a bartender who said, "I loved that book β€” this guy's a sell-out, he's a creep, he destroyed his own book!


Full interview here http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-03-21/entertainment/ct-mov-032 2-chicago-closeup-20130322_1_tom-cruise-cocktail-moral-compass

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watered down cocktailsξ€™

Champagne...perfume going down, sewage coming up

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champagne. never gotten it. costs too much. and has no real taste. give me a good cava. 75% cheaper. and better.




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I hate it too, just noting Tom Cruise's wisdom.

I'll take Punctuality

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oh! 

i forgot it. that's good right?



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Brown is an idiot! The film is on the same wave length as the Godfather if not better.


You're not serious are you?

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The movie is called COCKTAIL. It's not plural!!!!

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