Why does this film only have a 7.9? - Akira (1988) Discussion

[–] icymark 13 years ago

cause all the idiots love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfH6V9THbU

reply

[–] jakx118 13 years ago

you're lucky I don't know you in real life.

IT'S YOUR LUCKY DAY!

reply

[–] Doc_Roliday 13 years ago

It's an absurd, this movie should be passing the 9 mark... Legendary film

reply

[–] jakx118 13 years ago

agreed

IT'S YOUR LUCKY DAY!

reply

[–] jephiachantharath 12 years ago

I do think it should have a higher rating, but I'm not too sure about a 9. 8.6 is about what I would think. Also I think that people are just not open to foriegn films; espacially animated ones, and look how many people voted: about 55,000 users and compare that to dare I say more "popular" films: The avengers and the dark knight for example. Both are comic adaptations, but are AMERICAN creations; and please note I am not saying anything like the R word, but that people are more use to seeing something that looks familiar, with familiar people.

So case in point, people didn't want to see Akira because they would rather see something they knew better. And people who did see it, just weren't in to it. Here is an example of what a person might of said with the idea of seeing AKIRA: "Akira? what's that? Oh. Nah, I just don't feel like it".

reply

[–] jtf1986 13 years ago

Because it is very flawed and the story is incoherent. The setup and the music are great, though.

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

Because the movie is all style with very little substance.

Yes, the animation is fantastic and the sound is pretty damn good, but the characters are flat, none of them really change, we don't learn about virtually any of their backgrounds...

It's just a darker cyber punk version of Cowboy Bebop (which isn't an insult btw).

reply

[–] elderesek 12 years ago

There's a barebones story, and great visuals. Sort of a Michael Bay film, but animated.

In anime quality, there's a lot better films in both aspects. Watch The End of Evangelion, or Scaflowne, for example.

"Money is always important because money is a by-product of success." - Mel Brooks

reply

[–] jakx118 12 years ago

Did you compare the end of evangelion to akira. bleh, maybe it's just personal taste but I thought that was atrocious.

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

>_>

End of Evangelion is a master piece of art, period.

Akira is a fun romp for a couple hours.

reply

[–] jakx118 12 years ago

Why, I don't see why at all?! I loved the movies and got into the show but the end of evangelion was absolute horse *beep* Don't give me what alot of people give me about how, oh it's cryptic and artistic and vague. *beep* that, I want to know what's going on. Even on the animation side of it, it was typical anime, no special animation was involved.

reply

[–] TheSolarSailor 12 years ago

I share your opinion of Evangelion, jakx. My brother loved it, but I never found it anything to write home about. Oh well, we all have our opinions and they are certainly subjective. I prefer Akira any day.

- - - - - - -
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

reply

[–] elderesek 12 years ago

The End of Evangelion is more elaborated, since it's more complex and character driven due the fact it's meant to be the ending chapter of a complete series. Akira is cool, but by reading the manga one can tell is a very flawed film from the plot viewpoint.

"Money is always important because money is a by-product of success." - Mel Brooks

reply

[–] jakx118 12 years ago

I'm not bashing, just saying I absolutely hated end of evangelion, I thought it was generally received with mixed reviews as well.

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

Don't take this as an insult, but Evangelion just isn't for you.

As for mixed reviews, of course it got mixed reviews, it's not a movie for the average person. HOWEVER, EoE is highly respected in Japan, and NGE as a whole is to Japan what Star Wars is to America (except USUALLY on a more intellectual level).

reply

[–] jakx118 12 years ago

I guess not, I like coherent stories, plus I like none boring animation.

reply

[–] jtf1986 12 years ago

If you like coherent stories, then why do you like Akira?

reply

[–] jakx118 12 years ago

If you don't understand what's going on in akire, i'm sorry but you're an idiot. It's pretty straight forward. end of Eve was like an open loose ending that the writers didn't know what to do with so they just slapped it on and had millions of fans call it art for its ambiguity.

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

First of all, ambiguity =/= bad.

Second of all, EoE was actually pretty straightforward plot-wise if you paid attention. All of the plot holes and such (and there are quite a few) are generally from the TV series. I would gladly explain to you any perceived ambiguities.

reply

[–] jakx118 12 years ago

uh, explain the ending. And ambiguity passed as art is just pretentious. And you seriously did not understand what happened in Akira? That was extremely straightforward. Like one of you said, it's like a michael bay film of animes.

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

The ending as in the final scene? Ok.

Shinji and Asuka are laying on a beach having been restored to their human forms (remember, they were turned into LCL halfway through the movie). Asuka still has her wounds because that's how she imagines herself (remember, Shinji's mom's soul tells him that everyone can be restored to human form as they see themselves). The red streak across the moon is the LCL from Rei's neck as she died, the statues are the mass produced evas. Why Shinji starts to strangle Asuka is up to the viewers interpretation, but it fits (she was the catalyst for Shinji killing everyone on the planet). Giant naked Rei was essentially just an alien, hence why it's body is still there once it dies.

I know that's a pretty poor explanation, but you asked a very general question. If you actually have specific questions, I will happily to answer them.

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

Non-boring animation? How do you mean? Were we watching the same movie? EoE still has some of the craziest animation to date.

reply

[–] Brokenail22 12 years ago

What does not make sens in Akira, young man ?

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

Most of the characters motivations for doing anything. Why the hell was such an unstable person chosen to become a powerful psychic, etc...

reply

[–] jakx118 12 years ago

He wasn't chosen, did you see the film. There is a whole scene explaining it. He was not chosen.

reply

[–] jephiachantharath 12 years ago

Nice Star wars reference, that's just sums up why some foriegn films just aren't loved when they go global.

reply

[–] theknucklejoe 12 years ago

I've read the manga, but I can still appreciate the movie. I don't think you could properly fit all 6 volumes into one movie. There was a LOT that happened in that manga. Suppose it still could've been a bit truer to the original story, though it still kinda was anyway. I've seen less faithful adaptations.

Maybe a mini series would've been better?

Stay classy psychotic nerds. -Thradar

reply

[–] jessemon11 12 years ago

Hell, I think a full length 24 episode anime would have fit Akira perfectly.

reply

[–] skinnyjoeymerlino 12 years ago

It's a generational thing. When I was growing up, Japanimation (as we called anime back then) was for kids or perverts. Either Speed Racer or stacks of weirdo hentai VHS tapes sold by creepy losers at sci-fi conventions. Then there was AKIRA. The apocalyptic post-nuke future rang true in the 80s, much as a zombie apocalypse does today. Akira had a hugely complicated plot and spectacular visuals. You had to see it 2 or 3 times to take it all in. The dub on the original release was lame, so you had to watch the subtitled version to comprehend the story. Akira was strange and exotic, on our shores it was truly one of a kind. Since the mid-1990s a lot more anime titles got released here, and those under 30 or so got exposed to wider range of anime than we ever did. I've seen spectacular anime since then, but none have the impact Akira did. They just can't.

reply

[–] 12 years ago

[deleted]

[–] Hygrophonic 12 years ago

Really, it should be lower. It's a terrible--and terribly condensed--telling of an amazing manga. Lacking in character development, depth, voice acting (I've only seen the English dub), it pales in comparison. 7/10.

reply