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This movie was alright. I wouldn't say great. *Spoilers*


To me a good movie is one that leaves you feeling a bit satisfied. The ending to me was just completely stupid.

The visuals were great, and you can see the entire movie was a landmark in terms of visual animation on Japans part, but a couple of things bothered me personally that I couldn't seem to get over.

# 1.) Is there really wasn't any admirable characters in the entire movie. Usually some movies that are pretty epic, have a great character. The closest I guess you could some to someone half-way likeable was Kaneda, but even then he was a bit on the obnoxious / annoying side.

TOO MUCH DETAIL. First off when it comes to traditional or regular anime, the entire time I felt everyones face resembled muppets. I couldn't get over the fact at how rediculous everyone looked when they talked, aside from the general and a few other characters. The faces on some of the characters, even the old men in the executive room seemed to have way too much detail. Lines, wrinkles in their face.

It just didn't feel it was done in the "Anime" style. It really seemed like a futuristic, highly animated "Simpsons." - Yes, Kanedas face moved like a muppet when he talked. Let's not forget Tokyo. Most anime seems to give a good feel when they draw backgrounds and other things, but it just seems the producers went overboard with trying to be as detailed as possible.

DISTURBING / Grotesque

Not really sure where I want to go with this one. From a guy getting shot in the face and blood spurting everywhere, to Tetsuo's disfigured morbid arm, to him squishing his girlfriend and "Absorbing" her into his body? These were disturbing and uneccesary in my opinion. It adds a horror element to the movie that was unexpected; was it good or bad? It certainly left it's mark on my psyche for a while, and if that was the point of the author and creators, applauded. However, in terms of "Great anime" the story didn't settle well with me in the long run.

I notice as well many people were disturbed by this scene of Tetsuo turning into a giant blob. As disturbing as it is to some, this to me puts the movie into a horror category, not necessarily an epic. It adds to the novelty of a cyber, future, horror flick, but in terms of moral analyzation or nobility, not much can be derived from the inclusion of some of these scenes, other than shock value.

To me, a good story gives you a character who may have strengths and weaknesses, and is able to fight past and overcomes its obstacles, in the end leaving one satisfied. I guess not being a ral fan of steampunk or futuristic motorcycles, one could say I was a bit biased. On the contrare I know there were some elements of struggle between the protaganist as he and (The girl) fight their way through government agents to track down tetsuo. However, overall there isn't really much emotion felt between any of the characters, a lot of them seem to have a chip on their shoulder and not much feeling underneath all of their "Swag."

Ending Sucked. It really was a mind *beep*. My general consensus was a "One-with-the-force." type of deal, the main antagonist merging with Akira and blowing up into a universal black-hole big-bang. While interesting, I wasn't expecting a science lesson at the end. Other then an implied Tetsuo turning into God? (That was my understanding).

In the end this wasn't an epic, or a quest, or a mission; rather then a psychologial shocker bent on shocking the veiwer into a disturbed state of mind; Elements of catastrophe, madness and morbid violence are enough to leave the viewer questioning what he just watched. Do I walk away from this movie feeling I've seen one of the greatst animes ever? By far, not at all.

None of the characters were very likeable, they were rather dull and did not embody any redeeming qualities; but the show and tell was fully detailed and enriched enough to put you in another world. Had this story been told without the merging of several networks for powerful detailed animation; and taken the traditional simplistic magna route, I doubt the movie would gain as much notriety as it has today.

Being that this is a cult movie, I can only liken it to a "Heavy metal" of sorts, something that was passed around simply because it was a shockingly well animated, adult-orientated film, something rare 20 years ago. The story did not leave with any satisfied sense of morality or good judgement or philosophical leanings other then, "If this ever happened, that would be f-u-c-k-e-d up."

In closing, to simply put it, Good animation and good visuals, but the characters and story were so-so and themes explored drawn out, with shocker elements that leave you feeling disturbed at the end.

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i'm biased, akira is my favorite film of all time, but it's not perfect, nothing is. i personally think the characters are awesome, but they are left under developed in comparison to the 2,600+ page manga. the over detailed-ness is something i appreciate, this was one of the first animes to record dialog during pre-production so it has realistic lip sync(also a standard in american cartoons), even dubbed the characters are allowed more range of emotion. the carnage is really up to taste, i dig visceral/surreal/organic/gory stuff. i understand your complaints on the ending, but i feel i should give it some context. the comic, in english, was collected into 6 volumes. the movie was made between volumes 2 and 3, which had no ending. so in other words, they scrambled to conclude the film in a manor respectful to the source. it's an excellent companion piece, but i loved it regardless before i even read the manga. "To me, a good story gives you a character who may have strengths and weaknesses, and is able to fight past and overcomes its obstacles, in the end leaving one satisfied. ", all i have to say is broaden your horizons, not every story has to be star wars.

-Tab132

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I agree with tab132. Not every movie has to have a character that is likeable. Would it help to have someone that is? Sure. But this takes place in a world where morality is a distant memory and the only traits left are bitterness,hunger and madness. Guys like Kaneda only care about a few things in life. For him,it was his bike,his nuts and to a certain extent,his crew.

As for the OPs critique on Otomo's character design,I personally thought the look was incredible. Not sure what kind of muppets you've seen or what you were on when you saw it but I want some. It's anime and if you're going to knock Akiras visuals,I hate to hear what your take is on the rest of the genre. The look isn't the traditonal big eyed,wild haired anime character(not that there's anything wrong with that),hell not even the girls looked attractive here. What we have is a gritty,dirty atmosphere that was suitable for the world.

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Guys like Kaneda only care about a few things in life. For him,it was his bike,his nuts and to a certain extent,his crew.


You left out girls. Girls were pretty important to Kaneda. Or is that what you mean by nuts? Also being the alpha male was important.,

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Though I like the movie (for the same reasons you did) I can understand this review.

I believe the only way you can grasp this film is if you read the manga.

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Your mileage may vary on the film's moral tone. It's not a traditional "Hero's Journey" type of story and Kaneda's not the kind of character who usually gets the white hat. He was obnoxious, arrogant and violent. But he had virtues as well as flaws. He was loyal to the members of his gang and determined when going after Tetsuo. He showed bravery a number of times, especially during the final battle. At the end he showed forgiveness for his friend even after all of that bad blood.

Kaneda definitely had a mission, like everyone else. Kaneda wanted to save Tetsuo, then he wanted to avenge Yamagata. Kei and Ryu wanted to get information on the secret government project. The Colonel and the children wanted to prevent another catastrophe in Neo-Tokyo. Nezu wanted to use Akira to gain political power. Tetsuo wanted to be strong. There was a struggle that brought them all together and they all seemed to care about their goals. No, it doesn't provide a moral or spiritual lesson, but many good stories do not, and I don't think they necessarily have to.

I completely disagree about the character design and the backgrounds. One of the things I liked about it was that the characters weren't boilerplate, noseless "anime people". I don't see the comparison with the Muppets or the Simpsons. Otomo was inspired by European comic artists like Moebius. The characters were drawn in a realistic style to the extent that the medium and the budget allowed. I thought that made them a bit more relatable, as if they were "actors" rather than cartoon characters. If one of them steps on glass, you flinch with him. If it was drawn in a more stylized or "cartoony" way it would be distancing.

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1) I think the reason there were no clear cut heroes was because the movie wasn't meant to be black and white. It actually bothered me the first time I watched the movie, but after you see it a few tomes you get used to it. Truthfully I think the reason the movie is so appealing is the complex unclear motivations that drive the movie.

Initially you want Kanada to be the hero because he looks like he'd fit the role, but he never seems driven by any real moral ambition to do what's eight. Instead he is driven by teenaged emotional angst. First to get revenge on rival gang, then to get the girl, and eventually it seems he's trying to show he's Tetsuo he's still the alpha male despite Tetsuo's immense power. It's only by the very end of the movie that he seems to be motivated by a sense of nostalgia and brotherhood towards Tetsuo. Ultimately it's that kinship that helps him to save the day.

While the cornel and the three psychic kids don't look it, it seem they are the real heroes. They are the ones who consistently seek to save everyone due to a higher sense of morality. The kids seem to have this higher understanding that motivates them and the cornel is motivated by a sense of duty to protect neo Tokyo.

I loved all the animation. I especially like the fact that the Japanese actually look like Japanese people, not Caucasians. The detail is very appealing. Even the look of the old men was great because truthfully that's how some really old men look.

The movie was depicting what happens when you take an immature boy with low self esteem and you give him ultimate power. The reason he turned into the blob was because the power was too much for him. Eventually it overwhelmed him and as a result he lost control over it. His failure to control his anger and lust for power made the power he held become volatile and eventually it developed a mind of it's own. The power became parasitical, seeking only to devour other forms of matter around it.

This was a kid who was bullied all his life. He was always the weak vulnerable one. Even in his own social circle he was at the low end of the food chain. So even before he got his powers he was always trying to prove something. You see this during the beginning when they fight the clown gang. While his friend Kaneda protected him he also would belittle him and make fun of him. So when he finally got the power he released all the resentment he ever felt towards him. I could go on and on, but the point is this movie is very emotionally complex. You have to see the movie for what it is, a movie about teenaged angst.

I thin your right about the ending. Truthfully, I too thought it sucked when I first watched the movie. It felt like it left something out, but I've grown to appreciate it for what it is. I think your assessment is right about the idea of Tetsuo becoming a god. To me it's a story about the nature of evolution. Basically evolving from a parasitical organism as represented by the blob to becoming a cosmic deity as represented by the celestial bodies of the universe.

Akira is more then a psychological shocker. It is a apocalyptic dystopian future flick that depicts socio-political elements, pseudo spiritual and pseudo scientific philosophy regarding the nature of evolution. During the 90's it really was the best anime ever. I think many of the anime you see are directly or indirectly influenced by this movie. it is harder to see the significance of this anime because the quality of anime overall has increased since then, but it really is one of the greatest anime ever because of its influence on anime overall. Personally I think it was Akira that was responsible for making anime popular in the USA.

They show us hints of political irresponsibility, scientific irresponsibility, we see the social unrest that results from such neglect. We see terrorist/rebel irresponsibility (the abducted one of the psychic kids who in turn cause Tetsuo to gain his powers), we see the social irresponsibility of the teen gangs and their gang war. At its core this is a movie about the ramifications of power and responsibility. Like the popular Spiderman quote, with great power comes great responsibility. The thing is this movie depicts what happens when great power is used irresponsibly.

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