I'm doing a report on this subject. Would anybody like to give any feedback on this? My opinion on it is no matter what the other person is wearing, that doesn't give the other person a right to take advantage of them. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
shareI am watching this movie right now so I felt the need to reply to this. This is something I feel very strongly about. Even if a girl is walking around in her bra and undies in public, she is the only person who can give someone permission to touch her. Her clothes don't have that authority. You can't just go up and grab someone because you THINK they want you to. That's such a copout and I can't believe anyone still uses that defense.
shareIf a man dresses 'provacatively' (wearing no shirt and tight shorts), does that make it acceptable for a gay guy to rape him?
I didn't think so. The only time this gets debated is when the subject is a woman.
It also begs the question of, is rape about sex or is it about violence? All experts agree, it is an act of physical violence. A woman may want dress provacatively because she wants to find a sex partner, but that does not mean she wants someone to commit a violent act against her.
Frankly, that this question should even come up is quite sad.
I must say that the way you dress has nothing to do with it, it's most likely 1% to do with it. Rape is all about power. Say a lass was wearing coservative clothing that made her less femanine, the rapist would target her to belitle her and make her feel like a weak female again just to shift the power back in his favour. Maybe i'm wrong but thats wat it's all about. Date rape on the other hand is all about getting what you thought you were due in the first place. e.g your chatting to this girl and you then realise that she doesn't want to go that far but you still want summit without the hassle of screams so your drug her. I just think girls who do dress like "whores" dont always get targeted caus of the way they dress. any rape cases that have happened where i live, they weren't dressed like "whores" and to me it was all about power and making them feel more like a "man". Also (this is sick but...) i heard this guy had raped an 80yr old and braged about it to his mates and they shopped him to the police cause that was all kinds of wrong.
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"If a man dresses 'provacatively' (wearing no shirt and tight shorts), does that make it acceptable for a gay guy to rape him?
I didn't think so. The only time this gets debated is when the subject is a woman. "
It's not acceptable, but it does make it much more likely. That's why i'd never dress like a rent-boy, (among other reasons). If you're gonna dress controversially, it's more likely that you'll be a target of violence. It's not really fair, but that's life, if you're stupid enough to ignore the risks, then you deserve to get punished.
And all you people saying rape is the worst crime are idiots, what would you rather happen to you? Getting stabbed in the neck and the dying, or getting raped and maybe slapped around for 10 minutes?
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It's two ways:
On the one hand: The woman
AS a woman one has to be careful of situations as body language and dress can be read into
On the other hand : The man
As a man it is easy to misread signs that are being given by a woman but that does not give the right to rape.
if it were up to me I'd chose to speak like Humphrey Bogart, but....it isn't
I totally agree.
A person's appearance does NOT give anyone the right to harass, attack, molest or violate them in any way.
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Absolutely not. Everyone should be able to wear whatever they want, without being afraid that someone else may misconstrue it as an invitation. You are the only one who can give permission to another person to lay their hands on you.
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Rape is about control, not necessarily getting laid. So No it doesn't.
shareMugging + carrying a purse. Does it have an effect? Yes...but.
You are more likely to be mugged if you are openly carrying a purse. It is possible to lower your chances of being mugged by carrying money concealed or avoiding walking alone through dangerous areas. But the question of what you have or haven't done to avoid an attack does not, in any way, make it acceptable for someone to attack you.
Dressing up to look attractive doesn't mean you want to be raped, any more than carrying a fancy purse to look well-off and successful means you want someone to take your money. It's just one more way human beings enjoy showing off, living life, having fun.
It is the other human being's job to squash their own sick impulse to take what isn't theirs to take, and injure and traumatize you horribly in the process. Nobody should have to be afraid to walk at night with their belongings, or their beauty, on display.
Obviously there is nothing in the world that can justify rape. That said, I think that how a woman is dressed and carries herself has a huge effect on whether or not she is attacked. I don't mean to say that she's asking for it, but I think that men who commit rape seek out women who dress and act a certain way specifically. They seek out women who they recognize as good targets for rape. I think most rapists commit rape because of the feeling of power, not for sexual gratification, and I'm pretty sure that rapists have thought about committing rape long before they actually do. I mean think about how a predator would act, they would go after someone who appears to be weak and easy prey. And more importantly, there is a widespread misconception that women who dress provocatively are somehow asking for it, or partially responsible, or were willing participants in the act but now regret it. So, if a man chooses to rape a woman who dresses provocatively and has a certain reputation, he is much less likely to be punished than if he raped and elementary school librarian. And I can't be sure, but I imagine women who are raped when they are drunk, or dressed provocatively, or have been flirting with men all night are much more likely to believe that they are somehow responsible for what happened to them, and therefore unlikely to report the rape.
shareRape, be it male to female, female to male, or any variation thereof, is a power trip. End of file. Generally, as we're speaking of rape perpetrated by a male to a female, the woman ends up the scapegoat, even if her rapist is found guilty, why? because her rapist moans that she was "dressing provocatively, drunk, asking for it." And as much as we know in our minds that the act was wrong, privately we're thinking to ourselves "Yea, she was dressing like a whore, but it's *wrong* to think that way. Maybe he couldn't control himself."
BULL!
As "thinking" animals we justify that one gender of the species dresses, "shows it's plumes" to attract the opposite gender, and that if women don't want want what men are giving them (again within context of the movie) they won't dress that way.
What humans normally choose to forget about, is the fact that the "non-thinking" animals have the right to choose, if one walks away, the union is impossible.
As "reasonable" creatures, we expect the victim to go against nature and not ever dress up to attract a mate, BUT if the victim is raped, the rapist is excused by saying that it's natural, and survival of the fittest.
There is no excuse for any of this. If one is supposed to think against insticts and remember that baser nature takes over, then why is the other not taught to go against their basic nature?
All crimes, including rape, boil down to entitlement issues (imho) "You have my cookie, I'll take your cookie." Or in more adult terms; "You make me feel inferior, I'll *beep* that out of you."