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Already a very dated show....


Dealing with so many current issues of the day, do you think Murphy Brown dated itself too fast?

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Only until the next Republican president comes to office, and then we'll be like, "The more things change, the more they stay the same" (just like it was with Dubya's presidency).

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Murphy Browm was a great show. Yes the show is "DATED" but if you watch any episode from when the show was in its prime you will still laugh. The worse episodes of MURPHY BROWN is still better them most current comedy shows.

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please. you're dated if you think murphy brown is better than today's comedies

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It may be dated but it is better than the crap they have on now. How many so-called reality shows and I have not found a comedy that I care about currently.

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The worse episodes of MURPHY BROWN is still better them most current comedy shows.


Can't argue with that--it's true of most older shows.



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This Show was just a metaphorical orgasm for the libs in hollywood to 'name drop' and cry about Ronald Reagan, who manged to fix all of the leaks from the Carter administration (you see?.. It CAN be done!).
If it was REALLY any good, you'd see seasons 'one through forever' for sale on DVD, but you don't... so it's not. It's never even rerun on TV except for a short spell, once in a while (until the station realizes no-one is viewing).
So, you handful of 'superior' feeling libs can whine and wax all you want... but you're still alone.

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The reason no more DVDs have been released is the tons of music used in the first few seasons. You see, record companies are greedy.
Im sure you as a conservative can relate to "greed", its in your genes isnt it?

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‘I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money.’

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The reason the show was largely unavailable and not in syndication was because the opening of every show had a Motown song, still under copyright laws and licensing was impossible to get for distribution. Now that 25 years have passed, it's being released.

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Oh shut up. Tired of right-wing idiots like you whining about "libs" this, "libs" that. It was liberals who started nearly every social movement worth a damn in this country----the civil rights movement, the women's movement, the environmental movement,the fights for worker's rights all that. Liberals have contributed a great deal to this country even died for it in wars to serve it. So you can miss me with the snide BS remarks about "libs"---especially since we always seem to have a economic depression along with a war every time a republican's been in office for the last 25 years. Explain that if you can,please.

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Reagun was a disgrace to this country.

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I don't find it dated. It wasn't dealing with current issues all the time. Besides, capturing some of the news of the time makes it even more interesting to me.

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Maybe dated is a word with a negative slant. I do consider this a must-see show of the late 80's/90's.

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All in the Family went through this too.

In the 70's, it was hugely popular. Then in the 80's, it seemed like it disappeared from syndication maybe because the current event references were dated. It came back as a classic in the 90's.

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Same thing happened with the Brady Bunch as well, and Leave It To Beaver is rather universal also. I didn't grow up with the Beav, but I did the Bradys.

It was odd how they vanished and then there was this resurgence.

As for if this will happen with Murphy Brown, a show I never cared for, I couldn't say.

Murphy Brown and Designing Women just seemed to want to deal with topics-of-the-day (disease-of-the-week was how the '70s tv movies were described).

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I do think it`s "dated", but not in a negative way. It is a rather faithful portrait of the political and social environment of its time. If you want to have a grasp of the late 80`s/early 90`s zeitgeist, this series is the perfect time capsule. By the way, All in the Family it`s definitely a very particular product of the 70`s, and in that sense its also dated. It`s still one of the most hilarious sitcoms i`ve ever seen.

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The second season seems to talk about a recession, a war in the gulf, wall street problems, and some issue involving banks.

There's still a vice president that makes quote mishaps, and issues about non-traditional families still exist.

Maybe the hair, the clothing, and the names of politicians and news anchors have changed but the topics seem to still work.

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I completely agree, drei85. The same issues are still front and center in Washington; the "fluff" is the only part that has changed. The Murphy Brown humor is still classic!

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Yes I do find it dated. But I still enjoy watching the reruns. However I can only wonder how someone who wasn't born then or was to young can understand many of the jokes. Many of which are based on the current events of the eighties and nineties.

Great show though.

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I was born in the 70s, and grew up watching All in the Family (still a favorite of mine, today), and grew up in the 80s, and watched Designing Women, Golden Girls, Cheers, Fame, and many others. I was in high Jr. High when Murphy Brown first came to the air. I watched it faithfully. Did I understand all the jokes and such? No, of course not. But it was still entertaining and funny to me. I've been watching it on Encore Classic a lot, recently, and still find it as funny and entertaining as I did when it first aired. The only difference being, I understand a few more things now, than I did when it first aired, because I'm older and I "get" some of the jokes. And in some cases, my eyes will bug out and I sit and wonder how they (the writers) got away with some of the lines they did.

And I'd still rather watch old episodes of this, than the majority of the crap spewed out on the air these days.

Oh, and to the people trying to bash the Republicans that have commented on this show? I'm a Republican, but I still find this show hilarious. And to the Republicans trying to whine about this show? Get over yourselves. It's a comedy show. If you don't like it, don't watch it. But that doesn't change the fact that this show IS funny, and it has nothing to do with it being on the Republican or Democrat side.

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I liked all seasons of the show and find it's humor mostly funny and the characters well built. but, being from europe, i got almost none of the jokes about celebrity names, at some times the dialog sounds like someone reading a phone book to me. to this date, i don't get why saying "walter cronkite" or "diane sawyer" the ten thousandth time seem to be an automatic laugh from the audience. so, i like the show for it's characters and superb acting, but i must say, it's one of the most dated shows i know, because you have to study american media history of the 20th century to get all the jokes.

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Diane Sawyer is still around and working so in no way can a mention of her be an example of "datedness". And Walter Cronkite is pretty much a household name, and not just in the US.
You have a point but your examples aren't really valid. One could argue it's the references to various politicians and not popular culture that make the show dated and it's kind of true. But as you said, the show was far from being just about topical humor as it had great stories and characters that can be easily enjoyed without any knowledge of American politics (with some exceptions, of course).

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Again, liked the show, it's funny, yada yada.

But, before murphy brown, i would have thought "Cronkite" is some kind of a toothpaste, a "newt gingrich" a character from an aesop's animal fable and who the heck is diane sawyer? she the mother of the character in lost or something (don't even..)? sorry, almost every european would not know at least two of above three (without googleing). and why should we? don't you think seven out of ten americans would say berlusconi's predecessor was mussolini? or knew the most famous australian newscaster of the last century? or the first name of gorbachev? sorry, neither do I know nor care who was the president of the united states of the other side of the earth the day i was born.

but i digress: show the first 10 episodes of murphy brown to an american teenager, say 19 years old, pause the episodes every time they drop a name and ask something about that person: you'll get more blank stares than Anne Robinson hosting a Bush-family episode of her show. because current events are only current until they are dated.

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I know very few people in Europe would know who Diane Sawyer is. But the point was that 20 years ago Diane Sawyer wasn't more famous in Europe than she is now. That's why I said it wasn't a good example of the show being dated.
Anyway, I'm European too and I didn't know who she was when I heard them mention her for the first time but it was pretty easy to figure it out from context. And that goes for most of the other obscure references as well.

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Hm, okay, point taken: My arguments mainly proved that the show was obscurely american, not dated. but, having watched a heap of american shows and newscasts the last decade, i stand my ground and claim that most young americans wouldn't know more than 10% of the names dropped in murphy brown. so, in comparison to, say, roseanne, murphy brown _is_ dated. still a good show, mind you, and you _can_ figure out much by the context but nevertheless, it's dated.

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Every American knows who Diane Sawyer and Newt Gingrich are, even kids. And Walter Cronkite is a legend. Yes, it was a very "American" show. The most dated thing about this show is their hairstyles.

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As a 19 year old Canadian who recently got into this show, I can tell you that I recognized the names you mentioned. When it came to popular political figures or notable journalists, I found I could recognize most of the names. However, because I am not American and I wasn't even born when the show started, there are definitely many references I don't get at all. I still find the humour completely classic and it has me laughing out loud multiple times an episode!

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I am in my 30's and I could still recognize most of the names events etc watching a DVD of the series.

The hairstyles/fashion/technology is funny. But I think I would love to hang out with Murphy and the gang @ FYI.

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