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A horrible portrayal of Arizona.


I didn't find "Raising Arizona" funny at all.

It was a senseless film that depicted people from Arizona as being rural hayseed types. Most Arizonans live in urban areas, and don't talk like hicks.

They got a starter home in "suburban Tempe" - which showed a few little trailers in the middle of a desert. In reality, Tempe is a suburb of Phoenix with a very active nightlife, and a diverse population of many ethnic cultures. It's not anything at all like it's portrayed in the movie.

According to H.I.'s narration, the Arizona quints were the biggest thing to hit the state since the Hoover Dam. Personally, I'd like to hit the director of this idiotic film with something big!

How this movie earned big bucks at the box office and beyond, I'll never understand the reasons.

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I agree with you on one thing: this movie was a horrible portrayal of Arizona. I'm native of Gilbert, and I don't have an accent, or live in a trailer. Tempe is a very active place, especially on Mil and whatnot.

However, I beg to differ that this movie was anything but idiotic. Actually, "Raising Arizona" is very possibly my favorite movie. I think you take things too eprsonally and need to get the stick out of your ass.

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The Movie never claims that everyone who lives in Arizona has an accent, lives in a trailor and is not very educated. I don't believe the movie was making a generalization about the entire state, Arizona just happens to be the story's setting. There are people with accents, who live in trailors and have little education in many states, including Arizona.

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That's true.
All in all--who cares?
Raising Arizona is hiilarious no matter what!

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Wrong. NOBODY in Arizona has a freaking southern accent. No. Body. I've been all over the state-north to south, large city and small. No accents. Period.

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This is one of the funniest threads I've ever read (especially you, firstreindeer!). Except for the bitter little one about the "incest-fileld Hick state where everyone's mormon".

Well, at least you knew to put in an apostrophe, ... while being sure to capitalize Hick.

Thank God for the tremendous impact of this country's Language Arts teachers.

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And here I was thinking "Raising Arizona" was a documentary. Dangburnit. I understand where you're coming from, to an extent. I live in Lancaster, Pa...and everyone assumes I'm Amish. Nevertheless...don't take things so seriously. This movie isn't for everyone, but to be offended by its "portrayal" of Arizona...is a bit silly.

"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin." -H.L. Mencken

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Raising Arizona is a great movie. While it does portray Arizona as some hick-filled state, it's right in the most part. Pheonix, and all the cities surrounding it, is a big city just like any city. There's always a lot going on over here. But most of Arizona is rural areas.

"There's always a chance that you could die in the middle of your life story" - Chuck Palahniuk

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I thought it was a good movie, and i'm 27 now, and lived in az (scottsdale) all my life.

While the way az was depicted is funny, it isn't true (at least that of the metro areas).

Remember AZ is one of the biggest states landwise in the U.S., there ARE portions where people still have ranches and stuff like that. (in addition there are also a few good ski resorts up in the mountains which make up about the entire northern part of the state, and there is another one near tucson to the south, but I've heard that one isn't good and doesn't open that much)

The funny thing is Tempe is in the middle of the phoenix area....if you look geogrpahically it sits smack dab in the middle lol.

Tempe has about 120,000 residents, and it by far is one of the smallest cities in the metro area...when you compare it to most of the other suburban cities around with 200k-600k besides phoenix which is around 1.3 million.

We don't talk with accents. In fact thats why telemarketing companies like to come here...because there is NO accent. The closest we probably talk like is californians without the valley girl surfer stereotype talk.

I wouldn't move from here and I don't know why someone back there said they hate it. I mean if you look around we have probably the best looking women in the country. But if you don't believe me, I won't mind, more for me :)

Can't beat the weather, and almost no humidity.

Tempe is also the home of the largest university in the nation...Arizona State University. Tempe has a good nightlife, that used to be better, but the no smoking laws in bars has let it fall off a bit. The best scene is downtown scottsdale (about 6 miles north of ASU) which is just about all bars and nightclubs...probably numbering around 35-50 of such places a half mile from each other (maybe more, I'm trying to be conservative with the estimate). Because it's scottsdale most have a really great ambiance...and you can't beat going to a bar in short sleeve la coste shirt in the dead of winter...(what winter?)..it does get cold, but not freezing so you can still pull it off.

Anyways Raising Arizona was a good movie, and besides unless you've been here, most people already think it's all sand dunes out here. where there are actually none unless you go to the southwestern most part of the state, where it's probably closer to san diego than phoenix. So it's pretty much pointless to try to argue that to someone who has never been here.

As for the previous post, true most of arizona is rural, but 90% of the 5 million in this state are in the phoenix metro area or tucson area(about 100 miles south). Of which both will reach each other buildwise in a few more years. In other words it'll be like la and san diego with places all in between. Except we're quite a bit smaller, but still bigger than most areas in the country. Remember phoenix is the 5th largest city :)

And I can't even remember the last time I saw anybody wearing a cowboy hat. I'm sure there are some out there, but that's how uncommon they are. The last I specifically remember is probably about 15 years ago. (although I'm sure i probably saw 5-10 people wearing them since then and just don't remember)

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Right on, I'm in Scottsdale right now. It's a great place to live, perfect weather, nice neighborhoods, etc.

"There's always a chance that you could die in the middle of your life story" - Chuck Palahniuk

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Ev Meacham's naive Mormon Racism did more to sully Arizona's image: (Pickaninnies, MLK Day, Etc.)than the Coen Brothers parody of some characters. They do it well (Fargo, The Big Lebowski, The Ladykillers, Oh Brother Where Art Thou) No one needs to be offended unless they have NO sense of humor whatsoever. Then the Coens are DEFINITELY MAKING FUN OF YOU!!!!!!!! Be Afraid, Very Afraid!!!!!!!

Ulysses Everett McGill: Well I don't want FOP, godammit! I'm a Dapper Dan man!

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how many popular films depict Californians . . . as being rubes?

The Big Lebowski

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The Dude Abides, or for the Conservative Christians - The Dudeth Abideth

Ulysses Everett McGill: Well I don't want FOP, godammit! I'm a Dapper Dan man!

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Just saw this in the latest "Onion" (supposedly by a former Grocery-Bagger from Tempe):

"I first strapped on the apron at a little eight-aisle place in downtown Tempe--a dusty hell of a city where the damned stalk the aisles. But just because it's a godforsaken sandpit doesn't mean its cans aren't placed on the bottom and cartons of eggs on top."
-----the ONION 8-14 June 2006

Made me think of Raising Arizona and this thread right away.

You should read what people write about Minnesota winters--and Fargo was a "horrible portrayal of Minnesota"--too bad it was so accurate! There are lots of horrible things about just about any place you can name. San Diego? Paradise? They dump bodies in Balboa Park regularly not far from my friend's fancy neighborhood.

I once saw a truly enlightened person. She was somewhat overweight and very agitated. She was marching down a sidewalk in Boston saying, very loud: "Everything is f-in' horrible. It's f-in' horrible, and it ain't gonna get any better, it's just gonna get worse!"

All I could think was that at least one Bostonian was noticing what was going on all around her.

As Tom Waits said in "Hennepin Avenue" (Minneapolis)... "Everyone was behaving like dogs."

"I rarely agree 100% with anybody on anything. Not even myself." GS

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Congratulations, you have no sense of humor!


You are obviously a true hick and self-conscious about everyone else "finding out"...

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What's wrong with having an accent? Must everybody talk the same way? How boring. Me for one thinks that the southern accent is the most charming one.

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Well in Indiana we have Axel Rhodes and Michael Jackson so I guess all hoosiers, ( no matter how much fame, money they have) need face lifts. Not just any plastic surgery night of the living DEAD!! and vice president DAN spell potatoe please.I'd take HI a repeat offender not a pretty name. I should be offended. We do have Rudy though :) Hell you guys have jeans and a drink named after you shut up!! Ask people in mississippi how they feel are they burning??

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Hmmm... I really hope Carycomic is being sarcastic...



Meanwhile, I didn't even realize it took place in Arizona. I thought that it just took place in the southwest. And I also believed the Arizona in the title was referring to Nathan Jr.... Huh.

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I thought it took place in Nevada...since H.I. says that the Quints were the biggest thing to hit the state since the Hoover Dam...and the Hoover Dam is in Nevada.

But I haven't seen it since in years. I was just going off the first post in this thread.

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Nathan Arizona Huffhines, Sr was the father of the quintuplets. Nathan Arizona Jr. was the baby they took. Raising Arizona is not about the state of Arizona but raising the baby Arizona.


Although much of the movie was shot in Arizona.

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I agree you need to get way over it. Nobody cares that it was set in Arizona. It could've been set in Texas or Oklahoma or some other state like that and they wouldn't be upset. You should be proud that they used the name of your state in the title. It's only a movie! No sensible person thinks the whole state of Arizona acts or talks like they did in the movie! If you think that's bad think of the stereotype we Texans have had to live with for centuries and we don't care, we're proud of our heritage and the way we talk. And we have big cities like Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, we aren't all country folk either. Arizona is a beautiful, great state with a huge, modern metropolis called Phoenix! Be happy they made a movie in your state! It made me like your state even more because I like the movie so much.

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Phoenix is terrible. And so is Dallas, Houston and to a slightly lesser degree San Antonio. These cities, like most american cities, shouldn't be called cities, they are more like giant suburbs. A city without pedestrian life and where everybody drives around in cars all the time is a really bad city.

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lighten up, man.

Its a movie and a damn funny one too.

I'm from AZ and i'm a hayseed redneck hick and i loved it. I was the intended butt of the joke and i thought it was cool.

If you cant see the humor in the movie (set 20 years ago when suburban tempe WAS a bunch of trailers) watch something else.

The coens wern't being mean, they were trying to be funny and they pulled it off well. No one judeges AZ by the coens comedy.

I didn't judge minnesota by fargo.

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maybe it was Utah?

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"Phoenix is terrible. And so is Dallas, Houston and to a slightly lesser degree San Antonio. These cities, like most american cities, shouldn't be called cities, they are more like giant suburbs. A city without pedestrian life and where everybody drives around in cars all the time is a really bad city."

I know you posted this forever ago, but I disagree that those cities are "terrible" just because they're not exactly Manhattan-type cities with subways and such. Just about every single city in the US, outside a few north eastern ones, are like that...L.A. being the ultimate example of everyone driving around in cars all the time. Yeah they're much more surbanite (with smaller downtown areas) but a lot of people prefer the open spaces, lower costs, lower crime, less crowding aspects of these kind of cities.

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Well said SamuelChase.

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Being born and raised in Arizona myself and have seen the movie over a dozen times i have never been offended by their portrayal of Arizona. Its not really about Arizona its about the little kid, Nathan ARIZONA Jr. I think we Zoni's should just be happy Arizona was recognized.

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I've been to Tempe, and I think the characters in "Raising Arizona" weren't hillbilly or hickish enough to be realistically from Tempe. HI was far to sophisticated to be from Tempe.

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That's absurd. Tempe is a college urban section of Phoenix-home to Arizona State University. Not a hillbilly or hick to be found. You look like a fool spouting such ignorance

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ASU grad here, and "Raising Arizona" came out the year I was a freshman. Was glad to see a positive nod to my Alma Mater at the end of the film!

While Tempe is nothing like how it was portrayed in the film (not a single "wide open space" to be found, but you'll find the occasional trailer park if you look hard enough), have you ever been to Apache Junction where the movie exteriors were actually shot? Back in 1987, that was hayseed, redneck central. Remember, the movie was shot almost 20 years ago, and back then, the Phoenix area was a LOT less sophisticated than it is now.

I love the Phoenix area, but I still think that Raising Arizona is a very funny film. Stop taking things so seriously, Shocker.

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I live in Arizona as well. Watched this movie this morning. I thought the portrayal was absolutely hilarious because it was so bad.

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If you actually want to see somewhat of an accurate portrayal of Raising Arizona, take a drive to Vegas. Youll be surprised to see a house or two in the middle of the desert.

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Oh, for the love of....Phoenix was not unsophisticated 20 years ago-it was a very modern large city-full of expensive million dollar homes, golf courses and malls, colleges and world class hospitals-Barrow's Neurological Ins., etc. Were you drunk the whole time you were at ASU?

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yeah, im in phoenix arizona right now, and i watched the movie a few days ago, you need to lighten up, this is a comedy. comedies are often outrageous situations in life, if comedies were exactly true to life, they'd be BORING, do you want a movie made about "suburban tempe nightlife?" are you stupid? gg nub, you lose.

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