Maybe I'm just over-looking something... but what is the significance of the camera zooming in on Scary german Guy's wrist right after Fat Kid tells him "you sure do know a lot about monsters" and SGG replies "now that you mention it, I suppose I do" There is something tattooed on his wrist and it's not very clear. This happens in the part when the "Squad" was SGG's house having Pie and reading Van helsin's diary.
shareHe was in a concentration camp, and that was his prisoner number. The monsters he's referring to are the Nazis.
shareok thats what i thought.. thanks
sharethat's easily the best scene in the movie.
shareI loved that part and if you look closely, there's a menorah behind him while he's reading the diary to the boys : so SGG is a jew who survived a concentration camp... that scene was the best and the lines excellent
shareA holocaust reference in a cheesy 'swearing kids versus classic monsters' movie romp... oddball but intriguing.
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''so SGG is a jew who survived a concentration camp... that scene was the best and the lines excellent''
It wasn't only Jews that were sent to death camps (and the extermination of the Romani preceded that of the Jews) and there isn't any reference to him being of the Jewish faith in the movie. Slavs, Romani, Turks and many other ethnic groups were deemed ''life unworthy of life'', as well as disabled people (including children), certain criminals, outspoken liberals, some conservatives and communists (also regularly beaten in the streets in NAZI-occupied countries).
So SSG could have been a communist or had a mental disability. It doesn't really matter why he was sent to a death camp, he was a Holocaust survivor.
''that scene was the best and the lines excellent''
Agreed.
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As was stated, you can see a menorah when he is reading the diary, so I'd say he was a Jew. Besides, while other people were sent to concentration camps, it was Jews that were sent for the most part and the one group that is most closely associated with the Holocaust. He may not have been Jewish but I don't think they would have added that little bit of character unless they wanted us to this he was Jewish.
share''As was stated, you can see a menorah when he is reading the diary, so I'd say he was a Jew.''
Well, if that is true then he probably is a Jew.
''Besides, while other people were sent to concentration camps, it was Jews that were sent for the most part...''
This is a misconception as many groups were deemed ''life unworthy of life'' and ''undermensch'', including Roma, Communists and Slavs. It is comments like that which make the idea that Zionists have made an industry out of the Holocaust pretty likely. Jews were one of many groups seen as inferior.
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He also, shockingly, could have been a German Jew, so, yeah. Thankfully I learned about the meaning of that scene soon after I saw it as a kid, made the movie that much more terrific with that bit of real life there.
shareThe Menorah in his house is not proof he was a Jewish victim. There is a candelabra in the next room as I write this which looks a lot like a menorah, handed down from ny mother's father's family.
I have uncovered all my grandfather's ancestors for a few generations back and there are no Jewish people among them. This goes back enough generations that even if one of the first generations was a Jew even the Nazi scum would not have bothered my grandfather, considering that too far back to matter.
But a very menorah-like candelabra has been handed down through the generations anyway.
A concentration camp is a place where people are kept for some reason, and can be relatively benignn or a death trap if proper health measures are not taken.
The Scarey German Guy was a survivor of a death camp or extermination camp, where most people were killed within minutes of arriving. The Nazi's called them concentration camps as part of their coverup of the Holcaust.
Concentration camp bad, death camp or extermination camp infinitely worse.
Yes, but the candelabra in your house probably is not a piece of set dressing that was put where it is quite deliberately and specifically in order to provide subliminal backstory to those who happen to pick up on it.
So, no, it's not 'proof', but I'm certain if you asked the set dresser or writer or director if it was in fact a menorah and was placed there in order to demonstrate SGG was in fact a Jew, I'm sure they would agree on both counts.
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I only found that out as i got older and started to learn about the holocaust. Then the Monster Squad dvd with commentary was released to confirm it. It was a nice touch on a comedy/horror film. I liked it.
sharethis was my favorite scene in the film. I love how the film makers get their message across without being ham handed or detouring the film from its path. a very concise way to comment on one of the most repugnant parts of human history.
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Although comparing the Universal movie monsters to the Nazis is definitely what would be known in professional wrestling as trying to get some "cheap heat."
I don't know, I thought it was a surprisingly deep moment. I'm not saying it deserved an Oscar but for a kid's film and considering how subtle it was...I thought it deserved some mild kudos.
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Not only was it subtle and a nice touch, but it also helped explain why this old guy is so eager to lend a hand.
He, probably more than anybody, understood the significance of good vs. evil.
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