I just re-elected after not having seen it in a very long time. Does anyone know what the deal was with the homeless man? Maybe a denizen of the Cenobite dimension, or a demon sent to track the box and bring it back to the original seller? But if that were the case why follow Kirsty around? It's been bugging me! I haven't read the book so maybe he's mentioned in there or maybe he's just a creation for the movie. Any thoughts?
shareTo be honest, I don't know what Clive's original intentions were with the character. He was later established as a box guardian, a demon who gives/sells the box to people and watches over it, taking it back once the "customer" has solved it and been taken to Hell. I don't know if that totally fits with what we saw in the movie though, since as you point out, he follows Kirsty around before she ever gets tangled up in Frank and Julia's mess. Maybe he somehow knew she was destined to solve the box?
The mythology obviously wasn't fully-formed at the time, and the character may have just been thrown in to add mystery and Clive hadn't yet thought up an actual purpose for him. The Man in Black character from Halloween 5 had no actual story either, he was a mystery even to the writers who created him. It wasn't until Halloween 6 that he was elaborated upon and his true identity revealed. Clive could have been doing the same thing, throwing in whatever springs into his head and then coming up with background after the fact.
A few fans believe the derelict is Satan(who would then be the boss of the cenobites instead of Leviathan). The Anchor Bay DVD refers to the final scene as "Satan revealed", but the chapter titles may have been written by an Anchor Bay employee rather than anyone who had actual creative input on the movie.
I dunno wtf the deal is with that guy, he even turns into a Dragon at the end.
shareUp until I read this, I had just assumed that it was Frank following Kirsty around and eating bugs to grow back his skin. But now that I think about it, this doesnt fit with the rest of the movie.
shareThat definitely doesn't fit. First of all, the derelict had skin and first appeared long before Frank and Julia killed Larry and skinned him. And since the cenobites took Frank to Hell at the end, he wouldn't have been able to follow Kirsty and Steve to the wasteland and take the box.
shareJust got through watching Hellraiser 2 Hellbound anyone else notice the Homeless Guy is on the piller at the end?
shareIn the Uncut version, the Homeless Guy reappears at the end.
Kirsty throws the box into a fire. The Homeless Guy appears and walks into the fire to retrieve the box. He is set alight instantly but continues to stare at Kirsty. He then turns into a winged beast made of bones and flies away with the box.
'Doc note, I dissent, a fast never prevents a fatness, I diet on cod'
I always assumed the homeless guy was actually the African merchant who sold Frank the box at the beginning. He had the gnarly fingers of a homeless guys, and he has the box again at the end, presumably from flying home with it from Kirsty's bonfire.
There is no uncut version of Hellraiser that I know of, and that ending appears in every version I've seen.
shareI just assumed it was a demon guardian for the box. He stays in the periphery, disguised as a homeless human (more insurance that he will be not noticeable/ignored) just keeping an eye on things.
And at the end, *it* sees Kirsty try to destroy the box...so it transforms back into a demon......and rescues the box.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.