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That spikey faced dude


I just dont get why hes on the poster for Hellraiser and on the trailers.... i watched the film yesterday, and you only saw that spikey head man for litterally 10 minutes thoughout the whole film :S so why is he on the poster and everything?

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It was an ad gimmick after the film proved to be popular and "Lead Cenobite" became the front man.

If Jesus was a Jew, why does he has a Mexican first name?

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Was it really so hard to find out the name of the character instead of calling him some variation of "spikey faced dude" over and over again?

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Sorry but no, at the time i didnt have time to research his name, so i refered him to the "The Spikey Head Dude"

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Sorry but no, at the time i didnt have time to research his name


While posting on IMDb, a site that contains a world of film knowledge like cast/character lists.
How long would it have taken to look at the main page of the film you are posting on, 5 seconds?
From right here you can get to the main page in 2 mouse clicks and less than 5 seconds...but you didn't have 5 seconds?

If Jesus was a Jew, why does he has a Mexican first name?

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Why the hell does it matter?? You know what he meant jacka*s.

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I never said I didn't "know what he meant".
But they stated they didn't "have time" to "research" the name...while posting on IMDb. You know what IMDb stands for?
It actually would have taken less time to find out the character's name on the very site they were posting on instead of making a post highlighting they didn't have time to "research" the name, making the post redundant.

Basic common sense is all I was asking for, a trait severely lacking with people these days.

Notice I can make my points without inane name calling?

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You really have nothing better to do...sad.

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Show Mr. Bradley a little respect!

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If someone is making a post in 2012 about a cultural icon since 1987 and doesn't know his name, they need to get out more.

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It just comes off as disrespectful to me, like you're trying to downplay the importance of Pinhead as a horror icon. It's like calling Jason "that dude in the hockey mask" or Freddy "that burnt child molester".

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Jeeze... why are people having a go at me, just cause i didnt research his name, I only didnt scroll down, cause i would of thought he wouldnt of been at the top seeing that you dont see him much... alright then. Why is "Pinhead" on the posters for and on the trailers if you dont see him much in the moive.... there :/

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I'm going to assume that you've seen the movie.

Despite not featuring largely in a time sense, the character is actually the most important to gel the story together. It's still Franks story but without Pinhead it wouldn't have the central antagonist that the other characters lives revolve and evolve around.

Sure the sibling betrayal is an extra theme but it's a device used to create the emotional response in order to manipulate a woman into sacrificing other human beings, something that generally isn't done by otherwise normal people - even those that cheat with their husbands brother.

I'm sorry, perhaps the box is more important than Pinhead, but heh it's just a door key.

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Honestly I was surprised upon watching this some years ago that pinhead had so little screen time. He wasn't even portrayed as the primary Cenobite (spelling).

At the films conclusion he is 'vanquished' before all the others. Odd for the primary antagonist.

Still I will admit, aesthetically, he is certainly the most original and striking of all the demons.

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It's what happens when the creation is released in to the public domain. The best characters take on a life (if you will allow the indulgence) of it's own, powered by the public' hunger for more.

Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday 13th, Halloween - could all have had different antagonists but would there have been the sequels? Didn't they all gain their kudos and sequels, because of the evil psychos at the heart of it all.

Even Ash isn't the most sane good guy, and would put up a pretty good fight against all of the above.

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HellboundHero: It just comes off as disrespectful to me, like you're trying to downplay the importance of Pinhead as a horror icon. It's like calling Jason "that dude in the hockey mask" or Freddy "that burnt child molester".
"That burnt child molester!" LMAO!

jrcanary-1: He wasn't even portrayed as the primary Cenobite
The script calls him Lead Cenobite.

Dogfood_is_Life: Clive Barker did not choose the name and personally dislikes it. Therefore calling him "that spikey faced dude" is perfectly acceptable.
That's interesting. I don't blame him, though I do refer to him as Pinhead myself. I haven't read the comics, but I did read that Frank referred to them as The First, The Second, The Third and so on.

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Despite the fact that he's not visibly present a lot of the time, Pinhead is a very crucial character. I think a large part of why he's not seen more often is that his makeup took six hours to do. That's a lot of time and money (had to pay for supplies, had to pay makeup artsist/s for their time and work, and had to pay Doug for that time he sat there being made up).

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That could be part of it, but the cenobites' screen time is essentially dictated by the book. At most, the scene where Frank summons them at the start could have been longer. In the book, they don't instantly tear Frank apart and walk around in the shadows for a few second before leaving, they actually converse with him.

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Again, time and money. The productions people probably wanted to get all or majority of Pinhead's scenes fillmed in one day. The makeup just for that one Cenobite took a quarter of a day to do. That's a lot of work and money. Each day they can manage to save of having to get him and all the other cenobites made up is a chunk of money they save. In this business, money is everything.

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Because you're a troll.

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Do you ever think that perhaps...just maybe...you take these films too seriously?

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What's the point in drudging up an old argument?

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What's the point in responding if you don't want to drudge up an old argument?

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Good point.

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common courtesy perhaps

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I find this slightly amusing considering Cliver Barker thought "Pinhead" was undignified.

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If you watch the original Hellraiser, you will notice no one ever uses the name Pinhead. Doug Bradley's character is credited as Lead Cenobite. His name was never intended to be Pinhead. It's just a nickname given by the make-up crew on set and ended up sticking. Clive Barker did not choose the name and personally dislikes it. Therefore calling him "that spikey faced dude" is perfectly acceptable.

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While he may not have had a name then, he clearly has one now. Pinhead is considered official. This isn't 1987.

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Therefore calling him "that spikey faced dude" is perfectly acceptable.


Or one could call the character Lead Cenobite as (as you rightly say) that is what the character is credited as and not that spikey faced dude.

Sorry but no, at the time i didnt have time to research his name, so i refered him to the "The Spikey Head Dude"


Yet you later wrote...

I only didnt scroll down, cause i would of thought he wouldnt of been at the top seeing that you dont see him much


So first excuse was you didn't have "time" to research... despite it only taking seconds.
Then next you state you didn't scroll down the cast-list...so you did have "time" then. You just could not be bothered to scroll down a cast-list.

Why can't people just be honest.
What you mean is you could not be bothered to do some simple and quick research.

It's not a big deal, just be honest.

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why can't some people be honest or why can't some be civil? I hope that since 2013 you have humbled yourself. thank God for the internet or individuals like yourself would really have no voice.

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He might not be in it for very long but he is a very important character. He also has great presence - god knows he scares the s**t out of me!

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Very true

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I think when the script was being prepared there was some notion that the spikey head guy would be called 'Priest'.

The idea was nixed for fear of offending churchy types.

Read that somewhere. Don't know if it's true, but the way the spikey head guy dresses and takes charge verbally does remind me of an authority figure in hell - a dark priest if you will.

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Pinhead is at times referred to as Priest in the new Hellraiser comics, though personally I find it kind of an awkward name/title for him.

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Amount of screen time does not equal amount of importance. The blair witch had zero screen time in blair witch project.

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This thread is amazing.

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I know! I can't wait to read the sequel threads DIRTY HOCKY MASK GUY, WHITE FACE BABYSITTER DUDE, THIRD DEGREE BURNS HOMESKILLET WITH BARBER SCISSORS FOR HANDS, and my personal favorite: FUNNY-FACE APRON DUDE WITH THE CHAINSAW.

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