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Truth about Hell

posted 12 years ago by glemay25
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You may think this is off topic but alot of movie discussions do go into what is true and what isnt about a film. Thats part of my reason for this post. I do
belive the Bible is true and discusses the truth about Hell which this movie does. Here are the facts about Hell from the Bible

1. Hell is real and eternal
Revelation 14:11-"And smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast or his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name".

2. Hell is for sinners who break God's commandments not by opening a magic puzzle-box like in the movie-the truth is we all are sinners, everyone.
Romans 3:23-For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
James 2:10- For whoever shall keep the whole law and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all
Revelation 21:8- "But the cowardly,unbelieving,abominable,murderers,sexually immoral, sorcerers,idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone,which is the second death".

Ok thats pretty scary stuff, even more frightning than any movie about Hell but let me show you some wonderful news that the Bible also provides us :)

3. Jesus Christ is the only one that save us from Hell-not closing a puzzle-box
and def not soul-trading deals with cenobites. Christ did this by paying for all our sin debt by dying a terrible death on the cross and rising from the dead
Romans 5:8-"But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us".
John 3:16-"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,that whoever belives in Him should not perish but have everlasting life".
Romans 6:23- For the wages of sin is death,but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ok how do we get our get of Hell card from Christ who paid for it by his very blood?

4. We ask Him with full faith
Romans 10:13-"Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved"
Luke 11:0- "For everyone who asks receives,and he who seeks finds, and to him
who knocks it will open".

Ok if beleive in what the Bible says about Hell and that Jesus will save you if belive in Him and if you never invited Him, I strongly urge you now to say a prayer like this. Feel free to use your own words but please mean it with all
heart and mind

Dear Lord, I confess I am a sinner and can never deserve or earn Heaven. I do now belive that Jesus Christ paid for all my sin debt on the cross and rose from the dead. I do want to repent of my sinful ways and ask for forgiveness of all I did or ever will do to displease you. I ask for Christ to come into my heart and be my Lord and Savior forever. Thank you so much for your gift of eternal life. In your name, Amen!

If you said a prayer like that and put all your love and faith into that, then
I belive that you allowed Christ to save you from a Hell thats more horrible than any Hellrasier film (belive me you will lose the desire to see such movies)

Ok whats next

5. Contact a true Bible/Christ teaching church and tell them what you just prayed. They can help you grow in your new relationship with Christ

6. Love everyone and totally forgive anyone who sins against you as our Lord
has forgiven us

7. Babtism. A wonderful way of publicly expressing your commitment to Christ

8. Pray daily- Pray for other lost souls, confessing sins, praying for you
own concerns, praising God for all the good things he has/is doing in your life

9. Regular church attendance and bible reading. Along with prayer, are awesome
ways to keep your spirtual batteries charged up

10. Make strong efforts to avoid sin but when you fall then confess to the Lord and ask Him for strength to defeat your sin

If it should please and honor our Lord, I pray that the lost people on this board will come to know Him. May He bless and save you :)

"Neither height,nor depth, nor anything else in all creation,will be able to seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord".
Romans 8:39

Romans 6:23
John 10:27-29

[–] Littlebitsofgaming 12 years ago

Here are the facts about Hell from the Bible

There are no "facts" in The Bible.
You can believe in it if you wish...but it's not "fact" at all.

And so, God came forth and proclaimed widescreen is the best.
Sony 16:9

[–] chilone 10 years ago

There are no "facts" in The Bible.
You can believe in it if you wish...but it's not "fact" at all.

There is no "facts" in what you say. You can believe it if you wish...but it's not "fact" at all.

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

[–] npanou 12 years ago

"I do belive the Bible is true"
you lost me.

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[–] WOJet923 12 years ago

You should do this on the Little Nicky board too.

[–] flipper33 12 years ago

you sound like a *beep* expert in religious bull to me, out of all the animals that exist today and all the animals that have existed before, why is it that only humans have religion, cats for example are suppose to be psychic do you ever see one praying, and what do those bible bashing *beep* do after they die and discover no heaven or hell, they simply cease to exist like everything else that dies, if you can`t live the truth then stop telling me your lies, or else you`ll spend forever in hell.

she always did enjoy a good squeeze.

[–] HellboundHero 12 years ago

You lost me at "cats are supposed to be psychic".

[–] justyourfoolife79 12 years ago

Yet another Bible-bashing deluded American who watched too many televangelists as a child.

There is such a thing as free-will, and you are clearly not capable of it.

There is a scene in this movie where a statue of Christ falls out of the closet. If that isn't a sly joke to your "faith" then what is? The MEN who wrote the Bible (whoever THEY were) were clearly writing about a man they idolised. Homosexual undertones, anyone?

"HE" had no part in the Church at all. Try watching Martin Scorsese's The Last Temptation of Christ (though even THAT is a personal outlook, not the man's)

History is so clouded you could write your OWN!

[–] Duragizer 12 years ago

The MEN who wrote the Bible (whoever THEY were) were clearly writing about a man they idolised. Homosexual undertones, anyone?

Now that's a mature argument right there.

Life is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for.

[–] Littlebitsofgaming 12 years ago

Come on Jebus was gay, he hung out with 12 men all the time.
Going out to diner, etc.

And so, God came forth and proclaimed widescreen is the best.
Sony 16:9

[–] pointdexter22 12 years ago

Do you know what she did, your *beep* daughter?

[–] worldsofdarkblue 12 years ago

Great troll idea!

[–] Youngman_Grand 12 years ago

Here's my thinking: perhaps it's time to leave this archaic, medieval nonsense behind and instead try to move forward as a species. At this point in time we know that the Earth is no longer the centre of the universe and maybe the concept of a humanoid god who engineers his afterlife around entirely human concepts is now a bit of a misguided notion. I'm not discounting the possibility of god, the divine or some higher spiritual reality, but I'm deeply agnostic in that I believe it's totally presumptuous and arrogant to present anything to do with 'god' as facts. Therefore I've just as little time for snotty hipsters on Facebook who've adopted atheism as a bit of trendy intellectual posturing (what they're usually criticising is the more far-fetched aspects of Christian mythology) as I do for narrow minded evangelicals who deliberately seek to sustain their wn ignorance. Nevertheless, if there is a god, I really dont think blindly accepting thousand year old, irrelevant scripture as universal truth is the way to attempt me real ntellctu understanding of the concept. The depictions of hell in these movies are motivated by Clive Barkers fascination with sadomasochism, nothing more.

[–] BrainGremlin 11 years ago

Oh noes, you are right. Can't believe how darn tootin' unrealistic this film is. Gosh darn it, there goes a fave.

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Sad story. You got a smoke?

[–] younngl 11 years ago

Did you take lessons from Jim Jones?

[–] Blake4014 11 years ago

what a huge crock of crap. religion is dumb, theres too many to pick from....

Do you want this delusion or that one?

Why pick Christian delusional myth anymore than Islam or Buddhism? ALL rubbish.

You're a delusional fruitcake and nobody with a rational, sane mind will take you seriously.

[–] PillarsHaveFallen 11 years ago

In heaven there are no rules. You can do what ever the *beep* you. Heaven is basically one huge orgy of pleasure.

[–] seinfeldbenes11 11 years ago

The truth about hell is that it doesn't exist.

[–] chilone 10 years ago

The truth about hell is that it doesn't exist.

Is this a FACT or your OPINION? If it is a fact, where is your proof?

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

[–] TheSolarSailor 10 years ago

Does one need to prove that the gods of Olympus do not exist as well? Does one need to prove that Egyptian deities such as Ra do not exist? Do I need to prove that Venus is not made out of cheese under that thick cloud lair?

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Whose idea was it for the word LISP to have an S in it?

[–] Syndog 10 years ago

Does one need to prove that the gods of Olympus do not exist as well?

If I had reason to believe Zeus and the Olympian pantheon existed, then yes, you'd need proof, should you wish to convince me otherwise. Same goes for Ra, or Venus being made out of cheese.

Similarly, I expect you have reasons for believing the things you do. I imagine those reasons are as rational to you as my reasons are to me, and would require compelling evidence to the contrary before you're willing to change your mind. Clearly, you don't see that as a bad thing for yourself. Why should others not have the same privilege?

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Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many.

[–] chilone 10 years ago

^^^ I couldn't have said it better! ^^^

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

[–] Druff (1805) 3 years ago

"That which is asserted without evidence shall be dismissed without evidence." - a man who was obviously much more intelligent than you

[–] chilone (17914) 3 years ago

Dismissal does not prove either true or false.

[–] Druff (1805) 3 years ago

Neither does baseless assertion.

[–] chilone (17914) 3 years ago

And baseless denial.