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God, I felt so bad for Leonard...


I just wanted to give the poor bastard a hug. Hearing him wail and cry during and after the 'Blanket Party' is so gut wrenching. Poor guy.

Bravo to Vincent D'nofrio. Both him and R. Lee Ermy made this film what it is today. For me, anyway.




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"I learned that in prison, you like? You white trash piece-a shìt."

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a man with empathy, very rare these days, but me too bro i hear ya

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I did too, the abuse and poor treatment Leonard suffered made me feel so bad for him to where I can appear on TV and be loving & supporting towards him, I thought Leonard was a really nice guy who just didn't fit into the military lifestyle.

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Yeah I felt bad for him too.

Joker was lucky he didn’t get blasted away by Pile cos, even though Pile was blindfolded during the beating, he probably would’ve had an inkling that Joker was involved in it.

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Even though he would have been a liability in combat, I could sympathize with Leonard as well.

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Yep.

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I’m almost certain Pyle was NOT blindfolded

Joker was the last to beat him, so no question Pyle knew

He’d just decided to hold Hartman 100% responsible

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If I remember right his eyes were winced shut with pain during the entire beating.

But of course, shortly after he learned to be a minster of Death praying for war.

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You're right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPzY9EFhnmQ

But he definitely looked right at Joker, who was not only last but hit him multiple times

Brutal scene, weird to learn from "A Few Good Men" that it was and apparently still is common practice to conduct informal punishment/hazing "blanket parties" or "code red" but a lot of marines still swear by the practice. Maybe they think it's badass. And I guess as long as you know what you're getting into, who am I to judge?

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“who am I to judge?”

Your right. I’m sure USMC boot camp in the 60’s was rougher than we think.

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I came to my own position on it when "blood wings" were publicized, the practice of pinning Marine Airborne wings directly into the skin.

Liberal commentators were comparing it to the tail-hook scandal, but I saw it differently. For one thing, tail-hook was sexual harassment and non-consensual. Blood wings were considered an honor; anyone training for airborne knew they were coming.

And besides, if we're going to expect these people to fight for us and KILL for us, can we really condemn them for being brutal to themselves?

Code red and blood wings strike me as uncivilized, but exactly the kind of uncivilized we should at least excuse if not expect from our front-line warriors. Might even be a good thing for our enemies to know how hardcore our marines can be.

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