There is no money in Starfleet, right? So why....

----says, "there is a celebration on the holodeck" to Riker.
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But how is a celebration a throwback to the past?

There is an episode where Beverly and Picard are in his Quarters (makes me jealous)
But one of them says to the other," penny for your thoughts".
That's a throwback one too.

I'll bet there are lots of throwback stuff that we say all the time and don't even think about😀
No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed

Even in the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea, they use money.

I remember that during one of Picard's speeches to one of the unfrozen 20th century people he said something like, "people just pursue their ambitions, and it makes them happy, and everything is fine."

It reminded me of that scene in "Jackie Brown" when Sam Jackson's character says to Bridget Fonda's character as she is smoking a blunt, "if you smoke too much of that sh-- it's gonna rob you of your ambition."
She replies, "not if your ambition is to get high and watch TV."

I've lived in L.A. for ten years, and I know that there are ffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr too many people who have that attitude for such a system to ever work.


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Interesting.
wtf indeed.

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Okay, it's supposed to be that if you are a member of Starfleet you don't need money.
Sort of like the US military. (If they didn't give it to you in your original issues, you don't need it)
They give you a place to live, on the ship or wherever you are stationed. You can use the replicators for food and clothes and sundry items. You go to the doctor when you are sick, for free.
What else would you need?
They probably give you some sort of "money" for like if you go on vacation to a non-federation planet for example.

Other planets that aren't part of the Federation have money. Like paying for drinks in Quark's on Deep Space Nine or pay go for suits or clothes made by Garek. Other people pass through or visit the station, they would have to pay to use the replicators.

But as for someone going to school so they could get a job to clean toilets in the train station, or someone even doing that job,
Yea right.
Like the old Gardner at Starfeet Academy or Sisko's dad owning a restaurant. Doubtful.
Like the other poster said, most people would it around and smoke pot.
I see tons of junkies everyday I come to work. Not a lot of ambition there.


No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed

DS9 is administered by the Federation, but is "owned" by Bajor, which isn't part of the Federation.

The adage "In for a penny, in for a pound" was another money reference used.

But the Ferengis were not part of the Federation--an exaggeration of capitalism, they lived for money (or gold-pressed latinum)--a totally Ayn Randian state. Where federation people got the money to interact with these other cultures is never explained. Bugged me.

But many cultures are finding that guaranteeing a minimum wage to all, without strings attached, to cover food and shelter, is extremely beneficial--reducing all sorts of ills and improving health and the drive to improve oneself. It's far too expensive right now, but as an item on the dream list it's going to be up there right after universal health care. There are stories about it bc Finland is experimenting now, and Ontario, Canada has as well as other places--small programs, all positive, just no money to implement it universally/permanently while men can hoard 70 billion dollars they cannot possibly spend...and we move backward in time requiring the poorest to pay the same percentage in taxes as these billionaires, falling deeper and deeper in debt.

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M*A*S*H is an excellent show. I have the first 8 seasons on DVD.

RIP Gene Wilder. RIP Robert Vaughn. RIP Carrie Fisher. RIP William Christopher. 2016 is the worst!

MASH was the Army.......🙄🙄🤔🤔🤔
Duh.🙄🙄🙄
You eat at the mess hall for free.duh🙄🙄🙄🙄
No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed

"yeh how do they pay for space whores? "

Holodeck can provide anything and everything you need for free.

However, if they need to create a bartering system (for other-planetarians that use money etc.), replicator can create anything you need. Where is there any kind of problem?

Just replicator-create some Yamaha synthesizer for a musician on another planet, they'll pay you in their local currency, which you can then use to pay for any local goods or services, even the 'space whores'.

(Why specify 'space whores' anyway, and what makes them so SPACE? Aren't they just regular ones, or are you saying there are ones that float in space instead of living comfortably on planets? How about volunteer sexworkers that can't even be called 'whores'? (I know, on a capitalist-communist planet like this, that seems like a completely utopistic idea))

Maybe she pays in kind so the merchants are probably looking "for a good time"? 