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'Jettison some weight or I'll never make it to Cybertron'


That's what Astrotrain said when he was heading back to Cy with a full ship of Decepticons. But isn't weight irrelevant in space?

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You would be correct.

You think that when you die, you go to Heaven. You come to US! - The Tall Man

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Inside Astrotrain, there was artificial gravity, which only exists in science fiction. I can accept that there's a limit to how much he can carry.

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Well since it's a cartoon........

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The amount of thrust needed by an engine to move a ship forward in space is still proportional to the mass of the ship it's pushing.

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There has been constant trust to begin with. Newtons whatever law of inertia being in motion already.

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Astrotrain would need to burn fuel for deceleration and course corrections later on as he approached Cybertron. Perhaps he made his internal calculations and determined that he had already burned too much with his load of passengers.

And because Astrotrain had to collect all of the surviving Decepticons and take off from Earth in a hurry at the end of the Battle for Autobot City, it is unlikely that he was as full on fuel as if he were just sitting around preparing for a long space trip. So he probably started out with less than a full fuel tank to begin with.

Then consider that he made his getaway from Earth with the surviving Autobot and Earth defense forces trying to shoot him down, so he was probably accelerating from Earth on absolute maximum power. This means that he was burning through his fuel supply at a very high rate.

Since he had just been through the battle along with all the other Decepticons, it is possible that some of his systems may have been damaged. He might've gotten his navigational array dinged, or had one of his reaction control thrusters taken out, or gotten shot in his fuel tank which caused a slow leak. Some of these damages could've resulted in him taking less than the shortest, most direct route back to Cybertron, and that means an even higher than expected fuel burn rate. A fuel leak should speak for itself.

Hell, maybe he just had a bad batch of Energon which partially clogged parts of his fuel pumps, fuel rails, O2 sensors, fuel injectors, and valves, which resulted in lower-than-normal fuel economy. Anything's possible!

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Yes

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Apollo 13 movie mentioned this, when they didn't have any moon rocks for their return trip.

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I gave up on logic as soon as I saw the Constructicons transform into Devastator within Astrotrain. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8-_DjQc0sA

If I had to explain the extra space stuff, it might have something to do with Transformers being able to tap into tesseracts for their transformations when they change their dimensional space and mass.

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I gave up on logic as soon as I saw the Constructicons transform into Devastator within Astrotrain


Haha, yes! At that moment, I sat in my chair like, "How is that possible?!?" I mean, yeah, with any cartoon you usually just accept what you're shown, knowing none of it is possible to begin with. That's part of the fun of cartoons; anything's possible.

But that scene shattered any possibility of simply accepting what I was shown. There are many other visual and continuity flubs in the movie, but that one is the most glaring to me.

This scene (and any other odd "mistakes") didn't ruin my overall enjoyment and love for the film in the slightest!

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I know what you mean. Even though the scene defied so much rationality, it was still one of my fondest memories seeing the Constructicons have a brawl with Soundwave and his tape crew; where the Constructicons all combined into Devastator to meet Rumble and Frenzy's bluster, with both Rumble and Frenzy transforming their arms into pile drivers to pound on the ground and shake apart Devastator back into the Constructicons. Good times!

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Or what about that time in season 3 when Ultra Magnus picked up a couple of Constructicons like they were dolls and bashed them together.

You think that when you die, you go to Heaven. You come to US! - The Tall Man

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^^ Ugh, that constructicon bashing was in "Carnage in C-Minor" which is probably the worst all time episode (and that's saying something given that it was in season 3, which was an all around piece of crap. That particular episode is infamous for having tons of animation errors.

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I like that episode because it's one of the few where a human (well, humanoid alien) actually gets hurt. Plus, it's one of the few season 3 episodes with a lot of Soundwave.

Let's be bad guys.

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The fact that any transformer can fit in Astrotrain is mind boggling. In robot form, he's the same size as most.

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