Do you think Seymour was deserving of the 'happy ending'...

Yeah, I mean I think Seymour is given a bit more symapthy here than in the 1960s movie.


I mean he SHOULD have had a way to get Mushnick off his case, b/c really he wasn't guity of killing Orin.

He DID chop him up and feed him to the plant, which one might say he should NOT have done, BUT that's nothing he should have to go to prison for.

He was going to the dentist office with the intention of killing Orin, but I really don't think he would have done it.

About him letting the plant eat Mushnick, that's a tough one, if he had saved Mushnick, Mushnick would have prolly turned him in and Seymour would have done to prison for something he was innocent of.

Just because we lose today's battle doesn't mean we've lost tommorow's war.

That's a really good question.

Seymour wasn't a villain, but the fact that he went to the dentist with the objective of killing him excludes him from really deserving a happy ending by any high moral standard. That action (or intent) led to everything else bad that happened afterwards, and he did it with the intention of killing the man so he could get the girl for himself and get rich and famous in the process. Those are not noble goals, despite Seymour's love for Audrey and the Dentist's sadism.

In the happy ending we're to believe that Seymour has atoned for that by fighting off the alien menace and saving Audrey (and the Earth), so you can certainly say that he "ended up" deserving it, but he was also responsible for the situation in the first place. I guess he deserved the happy ending, but he's not wholly innocent, and there is still an Audrey II in the garden...

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I would say he was a lot more deseving of the happy ending then the alternative. I mean, Seymour's life up to this point had been one long nightmare. Then Audrey 2 enters the picture, and if you go by the downer ending, it just gets progressivley worse to the point I really can't think of another PG movie where such a litany of absolute worst case scenario attrocities befalls the protoganist until he ultimately fails and dies horribly. There are hardened killers who don't deserve what happened to Seymour in the directors cut.

I think he deserves it because he found out that self worth doesn't come from being a success and that being loved for who you truly are is worth all the riches in the world.

So for me it's more a character development thing than a happy ending/tragic ending debate. He did wrong, sure, but Mr Mushnick and Orin were horrible people. They kinda deserved what they got.
On the other hand, Seymour and Audrey were good people who just believed what they were told: that they were worthless.

It's also interesting to see Seymour finally growing a pair and confronting the plant. It's probably the first time in his life he's not a pushover. It's a little late but he deserves his "happy" ending just for that.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

Illegal things that Seymour did:
-Planning to kill Orin and showing up in his office to threaten him with a gun.
-Not helping Orin when he was in trouble.
-Not reporting Orin's death to the authorities.
-Chopping up Orin to feed him to the plant.
-Not helping Mushnick escape from Audrey II.
-Not reporting Mushnick's death to the authorities.
-Allowing a murderous and sentient plant to sit in the shop and risk death to anyone who walks in.

There are at least a couple manslaughter counts in there along with other things. What good did he do to make up for all that? He killed a plant that was his fault to start with, and he rescued a girl from an abusive boyfriend for his own selfish reasons.

Just because he is a nice guy doesnt mean that he should get away with breaking the law.

Sure. He didn't actually kill either of them, so why not.

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