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Tucking gun in pants


I don't know why putting a loaded gun in your pants is so cool. It seems pretty unsafe to me. I still would have still thought sly was badass had he invested in a holster. Ah well guess it was an 80s thing . Good movie tho .

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It's completely safe. The 1911 is carried 'cocked and locked', which means a bullet in the chamber, and the hammer cocked. It doesn't suddenly go off.

The 1911 has a grip safety, which is on the back of the grip between the thumb and index finger, which activates when you grip the pistol. Therefore cannot fire without being gripped in the correct manner.

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In addition to the grip safety, 1911s have a manual safety as well, operated by the shooters thumb.

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The in your pants technique is called "Mexican carry". I would rather carry my gun on my hip in a holster, and I don't completely trust safeties on any gun...

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i wouldn't wanna be pointing a gun anywhere near my sacred wand... no matter how safe a gun is.

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Don't you know, this is what cool cops did in the 80s, because holsters are just too old school...lol...

And especially with those tight-ass 80s jeans...like Riggs in Lethal Weapon...ridiculous

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that's where i put mine.


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I'm just trying to figure out how Stallone was able to fit that gun into his ridiculously tight trousers.
Or how he walked...
Or even breathed for that matter.

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It's like everyone on this thread is forgetting that he JUST FIRED THAT GUN four or five times before tucking it there. In real life, he would've burned his package because the barrel would've still been hot from shooting.
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Did you also notice that when Cobra blasted the supermarket killer several times, no empty shells were ejected? Gotta love firearm realism (or lack thereof) in movies!!

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Of course empty cases were ejected; he was firing blanks, and blanks cycle the slide and eject cases the same as live rounds do, which is how they are able to fire more than one in a row. The entire point of that prop gun being a 9mm even though it was supposed to be a .45 was because at the time, .45 ACP blanks weren't readily available, and they wouldn't reliably cycle the gun anyway. In practically all movies and TV shows from about the early 1990s or earlier, 1911 props are 9mms rather than .45s for this reason. Before Colt introduced a 9mm version of its Government Model in 1970, 1911s in movies and TV shows were usually real 1911 .45s for closeup shots, and Star Model B 9mm stand-ins (which look similar to 1911s, but are not a direct clone) for shooting scenes. Colt Commanders were also popular in movies and TV shows back then (a shorter-barrel version of the 1911), because they have been available in 9mm since they were introduced in 1950.

Here is a screenshot from that shooting scene, from immediately after firing one of the shots:

http://i.imgur.com/sn5VEM6.jpg

You can see the slide hasn't fully returned to battery yet, which means it ejected the empty case by default, even if it isn't noticeable on camera. In all likelihood, the huge muzzle flash from each shot in that dimly lit room obscured the empty cases being ejected.

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t's like everyone on this thread is forgetting that he JUST FIRED THAT GUN four or five times before tucking it there. In real life, he would've burned his package because the barrel would've still been hot from shooting.


maybe thats why he only had "on and off, nothing regular"

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No, the barrel is enclosed in the slide, and the slide has a lot of mass and relatively little direct contact with the barrel. You'd have to fire way more than several shots to heat up the slide to the point that it would burn you.

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A "cocked and locked" (AKA: "condition one") 1911 is mechanically safe. The problem with "Mexican carry" is that, unlike with a good holster, the gun isn't being held very securely. Rigorous activity can cause it to shift around or even fall out of your waistband. The Thomas Magnum character from the Magnum, P.I. TV series also carried a 1911 like that, except behind his back instead of in front. Mexican carry is a bad idea in real life. The first time you have to run or get into a tussle, you'll wish you had a holster.

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