This confused me. So had the USMC encountered aliens before or not?
Hicks and Hudson speculate if the mission is another bug hunt. 'Bug Stompers' is written on the side of the dropship. So is "We endanger species" on the eagle emblem. AND YET Ferro says about Ripley, "Apparently, she saw an alien once." ??? Well hadn't they ALL encountered aliens/bugs before???? She says it as if its unusual.
This confused me. So had the USMC encountered aliens before or not?
In short - The choice of interpretation is yours...
Hicks and Hudson speculate if the mission is another bug hunt.
The implication being that, with a stand-up fight being the opposing option, a Bug Hunt refers to searching an area for hidden, dug-in enemies, like hunting for bugs/insects... boring and dull, comparable to litter-picking duty.
'Bug Stompers' is written on the side of the dropship. So is "We endanger species" on the eagle emblem.
There are many such military emblems, logos and slogans, few of which ought to be taken literally. It's also a reference to Starship Troopers, a novel that inspired some of this film.
AND YET Ferro says about Ripley, "Apparently, she saw an alien once." ??? Well hadn't they ALL encountered aliens/bugs before???? She says it as if its unusual.
The inference being that she's just some nutjob who claims she saw something, further supported by the Marines' attitudes later in the briefing.
Another possible interpretation is that they've encountered 'aliens' before, but of a kind very similar to humans, or that anyone not Earth-born is technically an alien... certainly nothing like the Xeno, though. Either way, the 'no big deal' attitude from Hudson fits this idea quite nicely.
However, they clearly mention the androgynous Arcturans (famous for good "poontang" regardless of gender) which implies something more advanced than just animal life... after all, publicly admitting that you *beep* a "horse" or whatever they look like doesn't really seem their style.
Bug hunt clearly seems to imply some form of varmint action in the past... probably versus creatures so tactically inferior that it was boring to these trained Marines.
Maybe they had run into sentients and maybe they hadn't, but new intelligent species were always worth investigating.
That's how I always interpreted it. They've faced aliens before. Heck, with their slogans and nose art, they might have wide experience with them. But nothing they've faced has come close to the Xenomorphs we know before.
Hence "she saw an alien once" being sarcasm, because they see and defeat them all the time.
"Apparently, she saw an alien once." ??? Well hadn't they ALL encountered aliens/bugs before???? She says it as if its unusual.
She's being sarcastic. They've all seen aliens before, so having a civilian come aboard as a "consultant" on alien life doesn't impress them. Hence Hudson's response of "Whoopty-f---in'-doo."
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Since they never seemed surprised or disbelieving when they do encounter the facehuggers and Xenos I've always read it as they had encountered several species before so there was no thrill or mystery for them. The "bug hunt" sounds to me as if they've been on missions where they'd had to clear out hostile species before, but not anything intelligent to have any sort of army or battle tactics, hence why they're so under prepared.
Yes, Humans have encountered Alien life, but Alien ANIMAL life, not sentient creatures. Nothing like the Aliens in the films.
^This. I take it that lifeforms on other planets in this future are simply referred to as "lifeforms", whereas the term "aliens" refers specifically to the possibility of other intelligent species that have achieved space travel, which are probably still nothing more than rumor...except that Ripley claims to found evidence of them (the derelict ship), which is why Ferro scoffs at the suggestion.
However, they clearly mention the androgynous Arcturans (famous for good "poontang" regardless of gender) which implies something more advanced than just animal life... after all, publicly admitting that you *beep* a "horse" or whatever they look like doesn't really seem their style.
I'm almost certain that the Arcturians were nothing more than human colonists; Hudson was just making a gay joke, and Frost played along rather then get defensive.
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I'm almost certain that the Arcturians were nothing more than human colonists; Hudson was just making a gay joke, and Frost played along rather then get defensive.
I don't know. Frost's response of "It don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!" seems to infer that the Arcturians were an alien race. I never took his comeback as referring to a human colonist. Seems like Spunkmeyer (not Hudson, BTW. Sorry, nit pick) was trying to get a rise out of Frost but Frost sure wasn't biting.
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Seems like Spunkmeyer (not Hudson, BTW. Sorry, nit pick) was trying to get a rise out of Frost but Frost sure wasn't biting.
Exactly. Spunkmeyer (my bad) was trying to make a gay joke, but Frost was taking it nonchalantly. Doesn't mean Frost's was actually male, he just wasn't taking Spunkmeyer's bait.
I think Arcturia is just a place that has a reputation for having attractive people. Imagine, for example, if they were talking about going to the Olympics to get pootang. A place filled with attractive and physically fit people. The joke is that, male or female, making it with an Olympic star would still be something worth boasting about.
That, or Arcturia is so far away, that by the time they reach it, they are so sex-craved they will settle with anyone.
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Frost's response of "It don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!" seems to infer that the Arcturians were an alien race.
Or possibly a sex android that adapts to accommodate whichever gender the client is. Arcturian could be a brand name, the location where all the best manufacturing plants are (a bit like Detroit was famous for cars), or just the one place where sex-bots are legalised (like how Indian Reservations and Nevada allow gambling). Or the same as above, but with humans who have been genetically modified for the pleasure industry.
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