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Chritsy Lemire and Elvis Mitchell


I hope they do well and I'm sure they are great critics, but I'm not sure the dynamic will work.

The problem is that the reason people loved this show was because it had two highly intelligent men giving well thought out reviews and then, possibly, fight like children. They would insult eachother, make witty remarks and always try to beat the other person. They always thought they were right and the other was wrong.

Now my question is will Elvis and Christy be able to do that? Is Christy a strong enough woman that she will go toe to toe with Elvis? Will Elvis feel like he has to be a gentleman and not fight back very hard? Will they just be too nice to eachother? Will the public be offended if Elvis is too aggressive or be thrown off if Christy doesn't act like the stereotypical lady? (I think ATM fans are too smart to be that judgmental, but the prejudice still exist)Will they fall in love and agree on everything?

I don't want to sound like a bigot, but the stereotype that the powerful man must take care of the feeble woman still exists and I wonder if it will in someway hinder the show.

The reason Siskel and Ebert worked was because they were two average looking guys. One bald the other fat with glasses. Neither were really attractive enough to automatically gain favor with the audience so from the very beginning both were one an even playing field and the only way you could identify which one you liked more, which is a natural human function, was to listen to them speak. Once you heard them speak however, you realized they were both intelligent, funny guys who liked to argue. They were so much alike that they were always equals.

Now when people will watch Christy and Elvis, you will automatically have identify more with one (woman, man, black, white, young, old) of the two just by looking at them (unfortunately perhaps) and you will find that you might end up liking that person more than the other. Now if Christy and Elvis are able to pull off the aggressive give and take debate, you'll find that if the person you identify with puts down the other you will agree, and if the other puts down the one you identify with, you'll be mad they put down the one you like. It won't be equal.

Maybe I'm ranting, but I always thought the best thing abut Siskel and Ebert, and what I thought they did again with Scott and Phillips, was that they gave the impression that were equal in every way and that allowed the arguments to be void of bias and keep them equal.

/endrant

Thoughts?

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I could give a crap less if there are fights or squabbles. I never watched it for that to begin with. It was just an amusing side-show when it happened. Now when they rip on a deserving movie a la Ebert...THAT'S amusing to me. :D

I loved the last two hosts personally. I just want to see movies reviewed intelligently, thoughtfully, and by reviewers who know their *beep* and can back-up their opinions.

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I'm not a huge fan of the new hosts. I like Roeper, Scott, and Phillps a lot better. I'm not sure yet if I'll watch the new show.

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Wallix is right on the money. What made the show interesting was when they agreed on how great or how bad a movie was and how they articulated it so well. They frequently pointed out that they actually agreed most of the time. People thinking that they fought over movies all the time is more from caricatures and comedy sketches of them. (They argued a lot off-screen though.) Watching two people argue about a movie is not that interesting to me.

Also, the fact that Lemire and Mitchell are so different makes the show more interesting I think. If they agree on a film, I think that tells a lot more about the film than when two white guys about the same age agree.

Here's the presentation so judge for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOKAhkrcZag

George Carlin: It's all bullsh-t and it's bad for ya.

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The new hosts are terrible. I can't believe that Roger went to all this trouble and then got a couple of duds...Phillips and Mankiewicz would be my ideal pairing.

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Amen on that, it's so true. As much as I love Roger Ebert I just can't hang with these "hosts".

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