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the directing in this movie sucked

posted 17 years ago by Robbie_The_Bird_Watcher
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well, the direction of the actors. a crazy old man, a silly jester, a cold hearted woman set on revenge, and a bunch of stupid and greedy minons, this really was some of the worst acting in a movie i've ever seen. what did kurosawa do, just keep saying, "look, i need you to yell louder and beat on the ground more!!!!!" please...... it really really sucked.

and the cold hearted woman set on revenge, how the hell was she supposed to seduce anyone? really, is that what japanese people consider sexy??? god i hope not.........

the plot and the cinematography, the battles and the visual elemts were all A+. the actors and the directing in that front get a D-.

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[–] dws100 16 years ago

If you see other japanese movies, you will realize that many aspects of the acting are similar to these other movies. I mean, they have this idea about how samurai and the women were suposed to act, just like we have this idea about how cowboys were suposed to act.

And the director comes from a totaly diferent background from ours: he is asian, and their culture is quite diferent. I mean, *beep* they even read the other way (from right to left). If they even read in a totaly diferent way from ours, arent they suposed to do a lot of diferent stuff from us too?

[–] david-1281 16 years ago

when kurosawa did this film he was almost blind. afterwards he also did the editing fo the film. and before he storyboarded every frame on a single painting.

and now, just because he adapted king lear and you don't like the characters to yell becuase they are angry about the hate that turned into their family, you resent his work and call him abad director. if you remember, they didn't exactly whisper in the stage version of king lear either.
also i would be very interested if you watched the original sound or the dubbed version.

and the question about "sexy" isn't really appropriate here. were talking about 16th century japan, where i doubt some hot-panty bitchy-girl would come around and play the sexy type. the woman is attractive because she is so powerful. this isn't sexy in any way, but well comprehendible if you ask me.

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[–] craigjohnson20 16 years ago

Kurosawa was telling the story as theater. Like Greek tragedy. Kurosawa deliberately set out to remind us that what we are watching is not supposed to be reality, but art. His story is far too grand, too epic, for the confines of the real world. The fact that Lord Ichimonji's old-age make-up did not look relistic was not a mistake; it was supposed to look like a younger actor in 17th Century Japan playing an old man.

The film goes beyond even the source material of King Lear, and feels like an ancient classic story that had been told in Japan hundreds of years before Shakespeare.

[–] Gus-69 16 years ago

This is great directing. If this is bad, then what's good?

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[–] jorgddh 16 years ago

Yes, the internet age has labeled Kurosawa as a bad director. All opinions are respectful, but frankly, I know what is bad directing, and Kurosawa's is not. I feel stupid saying this, come on!

[–] craigjohnson20 15 years ago

So, you're saying "Saw" was a better movie than "Ran", Robbie?

[–] martini-29 15 years ago

Ran is my favorite Kurosawa and one of my all-time favorites. Then again, King Lear is my favorite play. What makes King Lear such a difficult task for an actor is the requirement to start off at full intensity and maintain full intensity, while staying true to the the subtly of the language, for the entire play. In this regard, and all others, Ran is a masterful interpretation of King Lear.

I saw King Lear in Battery Park last week performed by New York Classical Theater. They do a Shakespeare On The Run version where the company performs each scene in a different location and the audience has to scramble to keep up. The final act battle scene was pretty intense.

Great stuff.

Can't take these "directing sucked" comments seriously.

[–] uncle_g1234 14 years ago

Aren't you supposed to put at the end of that question?

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[–] tgold1978 15 years ago

I, personally, couldn't disagree more. You've certainly got the right to your own opinion, but I've had an unflagging love for "Ran," since my fist viewing. What do you see in this film as a good example of bad directing on Kurosawa's part?

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