A New Beginning is NOT Bad!!!!

I agree with most of what you said, except for the kills. I thought most of them were unimaginative. However, this isn't the film's fault. Slasher movies were being butchered left, and right by the MPAA at this point & time.

I love part V because:

1) It never sells out, meaning it's not politically correct at all
2) The humor is pitch black
3) It uses profanity really well
4) The plot at times makes no sense, but in a charming Ed Wood sort of way
5) Really hot girls, especially the lead.

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I liked it unlike JGtH or X this is one of the friday films I could actually say is underrated.

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Part VI: 'Jason Lives' is my favorite, but Part V: 'A New Beginning' doesn't deserve its lackluster reputation. Sure it doesn't have the 'real Jason' in it, but the first time I watched it I didn't know that until the ending like the creators intended and the Jason imposter does a pretty good job of playing the part. The final girl is terrific in this one too and she even goes toe to toe with 'Jason' armed with a chainsaw. If that's not awesome for a slasher flick than I don't know what is. I think one of the only draw backs for me in this one is that some of the acting is way forced and over the top even for a picture like this. It almost takes me right out of the movie. All in all I think it's one of the better sequels behind parts VI & IV: 'The Final Chapter', but a bit better than parts 3-D, VII: 'The New Blood' and VIII: 'Jason Takes Manhattan'.

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Agreed! The film itself is a really solid entry into the series, but people turned on it when they found out it had an impostor Jason...



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Out of all the 'Friday13' films Part V is definitely the most cult-like one of the entire bunch. By this I mean that Part V is basically a cult film even within the 'Friday13' series. It's got a sort of sleazy and trashy vibe to it, due in no small part to the director's previous background, that makes it all so strangely compelling and endlessly watachable even when it probably shouldn't be at all.

Part V is one of the true enigmas of cinema!

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Well, I can see where you're coming from, but it's still 9th out of 10th in the series, only better than Jason X in my opinion. Why? Characters. The hillbillies feel like they're straight out of a poop-joke B comedy, or worse. I've also never thought Tommy was a strong character. He's a completely different character in each movie, part VI being my favorite of his and in my top few sequels of the franchise.
To be honest, my dislike of A New Beginning has nothing to do with the absence of Jason. But the real problem is they failed to replace him with a worthy culprit; just some random throw-away guy. Once again, the characters just do nothing for me...except Danger, who's probably my favorite supporting character in the franchise. However, he's just an afterthought in my memory of ridiculous caricatures of mentally ill people, and I'll be damned if I ever watch this movie again. I really dislike Jason X, but I'd probably still watch that again than this.

EDIT 1/15/16: For the sake of fairness, and exposing my hypocrisy, I re-watched this last week to see if giving it a third-chance would change my opinion. I'll say that only the hillbilly son bugs me now, the mother is actually really entertaining. But overall, it doesn't feel like a Friday the 13th movie to me; the director starts the audio commentary with "I was hired to do two things; give a kill or scare every 7 minutes and turn Tommy into Jason." To me, this movie fails at giving any scares, and Tommy turning into Jason only happens in a very pseudo sense, and is basically dropped for the next movie. It's not unwatchable, in fact I realize I've popped this one in more than most of the sequels...maybe it's a love-to-hate-it kind of thing for me.

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If fact its great!

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New Beginning is NOT bad!!

Yes it really is....

I think New Beginning has the strongest sense of continuity out of any of the Friday movies

Are you kidding? The whole is Jason cremated or not thing? How bout the stupid mask on the cover of the movie that is never seen or even used in any of the previous or future films....

This movie feels more like a spin off than an actual entry in the series...

it consciously attempted to bridge the gap after Final Chapter and expanded Tommy Jarvis's character in a way that is logical.

No, Part 6 did that. The whole tommy turning into Jason thing was ridiculous and not very "logical".

Part 6 on the other hand showed tommy wanting to take vengeance which seemed a lot more logical than tommy becomes the next Jason....

We have the Corey Feldman cameo, we see he still has an affinity for mask making, he looks fondly at the photo of Trish, his mother and Gordon from Part 4, he is quite reasonably disturbed and psychologically damage after his encounter with Jason, and we even hear the echoes of him shouting "Die! Die!" from Part 4 (yes I know it was in Jason Lives too).

Even a young Corey Feldman couldn't save this film....All he gets is one minute of him staring at a bush while its raining....

Could this be the deepest the Friday series has gotten, exploring the psychological inferiority of one of its characters? (Aside from Mrs. Voorhees hearing Jason's voice in her head, because she was just insane.)

Nope. Not even close. Part 7 explored a mentally damaged victim who actually fights back and kills Jason instead of some hackneyed plot where the survivor reverts to becoming the killer at the end.

People don't like this film because they say it doesn't have Jason. Well guess what - it DOES! We see a menacing apparition of Jason many times as he appeared in Part 4, as imagined by Tommy. Jason doesn't need only to hack and slash his victims - he can torment them psychologically as well, like he does with Tommy. Despite the fact that Jason is dead, his presence is still very much felt throughout the movies whether it's through Tommy's memories, other people talking about him, or Roy impersonating him.

I'm sorry but no one goes to a Jason movie to see Jason only appear as a figment of someone's imagination in his own movie....


Sorry, but "People" are dead right. Jason is NOT in the film. Just some ghost in a dudes head. Its seems very misleading by the film company and you to pretend Jason has a great presence in the film when he does not.

I guess a more accurate complaint about the movie is "Jason isn't the killer." Well guess what! He wasn't the killer in the original Friday the 13th either! And look how successful that was and all the sequels it spawned.

1. It can be argued that Jason was the killer in the first film as the mother hears his voice telling her to kill all the counselors....He was just using his mother as a vessel.


2.The original didn't revolve around a plot point of a Scooby doo mystery pretending to be someone more well known.

Speaking of the original, Part 5 is very much a return to the style and feel of the 1980 original. For instance, we get the classic POV shots from the killer's perspective as someone stalks and murders the teens

What are you talking about? All the previous films had the same type of shots and feel. I'm confused how this is a return to form if the form was still on going.

This also reintroduces the mystery "whodunit" aspect of the original (say what you want about Roy looking conspicuous) that keeps you wondering who the killer could be!

Big Difference between the original where you never meet or see the actual killer till the end of the film and this movie where they have a Scooby doo type mystery where the villain is unmasked at the end and just happens to keep the whole plot and reason for doing it in his pockets....

There's also the parallel between Roy and Mrs. Voorhees - both were parents driven to murder by the deaths of their children. It's obvious the filmmakers of Part 5 had great reverence for the original and wanted to recapture that feeling.

Oh yeah, hiring a porn director to shoot the film and taking the main character of the series out of the film was definitely showing reverence...

Part 5 has some of the best kills in the whole series. Eddie getting his head twisted from behind the tree? The idiot on the motorcycle getting decapitated? Those two random greasers on the side of the road? Ooh baby, ooh baby?! Some of these were very creative and memorable kills, and I feel that the director did not hold back as much and that Part 5 was not as heavily censored as some of the other Friday films.

Most of the kills were bland stab in the stomach with a machete type kills. They felt very cheap. If you want to see original kills watch any of the sequels which have many more interesting kills.

And not only did Part 5 have the best nudity in the series, it probably had some of the most! All of this can probably be attributed to the fact that the director had a background in pornography, but whatever.

Whatever huh?


In Crystal lake memories a lot of the actors and writer of the film talk about how the film had a very rough and negative vibe even in its nudity. The director was very harsh with some of the women and focused more on the T&A aspect of the film. Women were threatened to take off their clothes or lose their jobs.

Its really not something to brag about.

And finally, the characters! They are so much more interesting than any of the usual, bland, expendable fodder from all of the other movies (except maybe Jimbo aka Crispin Glover). This is due largely to the setting - the halfway house provides an opportunity for a variety of interesting and memorable characters! Joey with his candy bar, the lunatic wood chopper, emo chick Violet, the poor stuttering guy, Reggie the Reckless, and of course Demon (ooh baby)! Every one of these characters stood out, unlike the various teens and counsellors from the other films, who were utterly forgettable. Some of them were even downright cooky like the redneck mom with her stew and her idiot son on the motorbike (seriously, wtf?) The characters in Part 5 are ludicrously over the top, but at least they're interesting and entertaining! They had the WTF factor going for them. Ooh baby ooh baby!

I would argue that these characters are more Cliché than any in the series with no believable plot or backstory to them besides Tommy.

The cartoonish Hicks in the woods almost turned this film into a comedy.

The stereotype crazy guy who goes off at moments notice is given the job of chopping wood with an ax at a mental health facility?

These are not real characters.






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