Is it just me or is there no other movie, over the top or not, cheesy or not, that attracts that many delusional nerds with to much time on their hands to do entire conversations movie-quote style or to try to find some deeper sense in the most dead-plain lines of a film?
Personally, I get a blast out of each time I visit that board. It's so hilarious to cherish non-sense and to quest sense in the completly senseless.
Any other movie that even comes close to this insane vacuity?
This is alluded to in the film with Cooke's behaviour in the car dealership at the beginning of the film. The car salesman is concerned with the fate of the car, he tells Cooke that he cannot take the car away, he is obsessed with what is ultimately trivial in comparison to the later events. His own death quickly follows in sharp contrast with his minor earlier fears, the fate of an entire country hangs in the balance partially as a result of his death.
When Cooke asks the rhetorical question of what he likes best, "The price", the price he's talking about isn't the free car he thinks he'll be getting, he's referring to the price the car salesman and Val Verde will pay for his valuing of trivial things above what is really important, one's life.
Perhaps in a self referential way the film is telling us not to be concerned with the deeper meaning of films, simply to live our lives, feed deer and play in water with our family.
- I'd rather you all hate me for everything I am than love me for something I'm not
This is alluded to in the film with Cooke's behaviour in the car dealership at the beginning of the film. The car salesman is concerned with the fate of the car, he tells Cooke that he cannot take the car away, he is obsessed with what is ultimately trivial in comparison to the later events. His own death quickly follows in sharp contrast with his minor earlier fears, the fate of an entire country hangs in the balance partially as a result of his death.
When Cooke asks the rhetorical question of what he likes best, "The price", the price he's talking about isn't the free car he thinks he'll be getting, he's referring to the price the car salesman and Val Verde will pay for his valuing of trivial things above what is really important, one's life.
Perhaps in a self referential way the film is telling us not to be concerned with the deeper meaning of films, simply to live our lives, feed deer and play in water with our family.
I wholeheartedly agree with ExcellentBulletproofVest. Also, the self-satisfied smile Cooke gives when he drives away clearly allows an establishment that shows us the movie's connection with hedonism and self-indulgent behavior; somewhat inspired by, but not entirely, the Epicurean philosophy (the genious Mark L. Lester has interpreted it in his own way, to his own use). Because Cooke is not afraid, i.e. the good life is a life without fear, he does not await retribution for his behavior. This can be quoted in a way we all know very well, by Horace:
"sapias, vina liques et spatio brevi spem longam reseces. dum loquimur, fugerit invida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."
I love thismovie, but if you look at the Over The Top flicks produced between 1980 and 1987 99% of them involved copious amounts of pure COOVAN snow to see them through to the end.
People obviously mean it tongue-in-cheek and know that Commando is a silly (but extremely entertaining) movie.
Delusional? Go to a board like Avatar. You'll see quite a few people talking about how it was some original film with realistic, well-developed characters. Yeah the characters were really well-developed and that military guy wasn't over-the-top at all.
Or The Hunger Games. You can name the 9 gazillion or so works of fiction before the 90s with the same basic premise and similar themes that could have influenced THG. Somehow it is all about the whole movie and book ripping off Battle Royale. Forget all the other movies and stories before BR, they don't deserve any credit. Only BR does.
This is the greatest board on IMDb. Tongue in cheek, just like the movie. And seriously, the entire script is quote worthy. Name me any other movie where literally every single line and every single scene is legendary.
"Some men are coming to kill us. We're gonna kill them first."
This implies that you have some kind of delusion about boards. You see, boards are inanimate, almost non-real things, that only exist on top of complex layers of software that needs networked computers to be usable.
Such an artificial human creation that's almost 'unreal' in the sense, that it doesn't truly exist in the real world with humans and touchable objects, certainly does not have the capability to be 'delusional', as it has no soul, nor does it have any kind of life of its own. As a simplified metaphor, it's like paper, where people can write. Now, paper may retain some of the spirit of the tree that it was cut from - but a board is just cold, typed code - it's just a computer program, basically.
There are of course movies that make ridiculous claims that computer programs could somehow (how?) have souls, but a soul is incarnated into the physical, not the other way around (soul exists with or without any physical substance - let alone 'electronic non-substance').
So if you truly think, as your question shows that you do, that boards are capable of delusions, then YOU are indeed the one that should be called 'delusional'.
Only delusional people think boards have the capability for having delusions.
"..or is there no other movie, over the top or not, cheesy or not, that attracts that many delusional nerds with to much time on their hands to do entire conversations movie-quote style or to try to find some deeper sense in the most dead-plain lines of a film?"
Wow, you have really bad english skills. Mine are not perfect either, I mess up the articles (it's sometimes hard to know which illogical small word must be used between the bigger words - like, 'in' instead of 'on', and so on), and my vocabulary could be bigger, but this quote really has mistakes I can't see myself doing.
First of all, it's a run-on sentence that doesn't make clear as to what the question actually is. So you want to know if there are other movies .. that attract THAT many (do you mean 'AS many'? Otherwise, what is this 'THAT' that you are referring to? It's bad english in any case. Maybe if you used the word 'THIS' instead, it might make more sense) nerds .. with "to much" (what does this mean? Do you mean 'TOO much'? You don't even know the difference between 'to' and 'too', and you think you are fit to criticize others?) time on their hands.. to DO 'entire conversations' (how do you 'DO' a conversation? Are you some kind of literary perv that goes around stalking innocent conversations and then 'DOES' them?).. 'movie-quote style' (What does this even mean?) OR try to find some deeper sense (don't you mean 'deeper MEANING'?) .. 'the most dead-plain' (what is 'dead-plain' exactly? I couldn't find this kind of reference) lines of a film ('of a film'? Don't you mean "IN a film"? Otherwise, don't you mean "of THIS film"? Why even use 'film', instead of 'movie' (movies can be watched completely digitally these days, no film is required)?
"Is there no other movie"?
Hmm.. well, it's kind of hard to tell without looking through every movie. But your convoluted and overly-complex way of asking if there's another BOARD, makes it seem that you are asking about a MOVIE. I don't have an answer, but let's check out further.
'Delusional nerd' - so it wouldn't be so bad, if they weren't nerds? If they were delusional alpha thugs, or delusional biker gang members, you'd have no problem with it? Why do you only want to know about nerds?
Or do you just want to insult people by calling them nerds? This tells more about you than anyone else, so yes, it's just you, again.
"Cheesy or not, over the top or not"
This is completely unnecessary, because with such a wide scope, EVERY movie fits into this description. You basically nullify what you are saying with the 'or nots'. Was it really necessary to use this kind of nullification twice in a row? Wasn't your question long and complicated enough, so you felt the urge to add something completely useless?
If you MUST say something like this, why not just say something like "no limitations as to the style" or "any movie will do"? Or if the 'or not'-game is what you want to play, why leave it at that? Why not pick more things from this movie, and then just add 'or not' to them?
"Made in the eighties or not, funny or not, one-liner-filled or not, comedic or not, Starring Arnie or not" and so on?
I assume you meant 'too', when you said 'to much time on their hands', so I'll just go with that.
"Too much time on their hands"
Now, how can anyone have more time than someone else? Another one of your delusions?
Time does not exist on the hands anyway, it exists everywhere (or possibly, nowhere) simultaneously. The white-coated self-proclaimed 'professionals' here call it 'the fourth dimension' (when it clearly isn't a dimension, but something else). We could have a 'deep and meaningful' discussion about what time is (see, how this movie DOES inspire 'depth' and 'meaning' (although you said 'sense', which makes no sense) that can be utilized for interesting conversations), but maybe some other time.
Let's say you are using that terminology idiot.. uhm.. idiomatically. So you mean they don't have 'enough to do', so they have free time to come to IMDb and use their freedom of speech to find meaningful things from where you don't want them to find it.
First of all, that makes you quite a control freak; you want to control where 'deep sense' [sic] can, should, and is allowed to be find, and where it isn't. People shouldn't just freely find it anywhere they want! Only strictly controlled places that YOU dictate! Right?
Second of all, what's "too much time" anyway? Writing a post doesn't take that long, maybe ten minutes to an hour. Are you saying 'delusional nerds' (a pretty loosely defined group that should be more clearly explained) shouldn't have ten minutes to an hour of free time, EVER, in their life?
So in your opinion, people should be treating this planet like a work camp, where these slaves (that you choose from your self-defined group of 'delusional nerds', who have not done anything bad to you) just work themselves to death with practically no free time whatsoever? Are you perhaps the 'Dear Leader' of North Korea?
Third of all, WHO gets to say who has 'too much' time, and who has 'the proper amount of time', and who has 'too little time' "on their hands"? And with what grounds does this individual (YOU?) have this authority? HOW can anyone have this kind of authority over another human being without their consent, since every human being has unalienable (not 'inalienable') rights from the second they're incarnated until the second they have left the physical body? (and of course, also inbetween incarnations)
"To do entire conversations movie-quote style"
Shouldn't that be, 'to HAVE' conversations', not 'to DO' conversations? Also, 'entire conversations' is bad, but what if they had 80% conversations? What if they had only 50% conversations?
Would that be OK? How do you measure whether a conversation is 'entire conversation', or just 'partial'?
Furthermore, shouldn't that be "'movie quote'-style" - I mean, isn't your hyphen in the long place?
What's wrong with conversations? Don't you find they enlighten people, make them think more, and thus better themselves as human beings?
I am not sure what you mean by 'movie quote-style' (or movie-quote style, if you prefer) - so people have fun with stupidity, by reciting silly quotes from a silly movie, and manage to actually have conversations with it? I don't really get that sport either, but I wouldn't voice my criticism against it - after all, free speech means you are free to say stupid things.
If they really don't have anything to say from the depths of their own selves, at least they can quote a movie.
And hey, if you can "do" "entire" conversations that way, isn't that kind of amazing?
"to try to find some deeper sense"
What's wrong with the ongoing research to try to acquire something more meaningful? Are you against 'deeper sense', and only want 'superficial meaninglessness' in your life?
Even so, why would you be against other people trying to find meaning from things? Perhaps there IS meaning to everything, but we are still too blind to see it all?
You want to also deny this, completely harmless activity that might bring peace to someone's soul, who might otherwise commit a suicide, from people? So you actually want to rise the number of people who kill themselves? That's horrible!
"in the most dead-plain lines of a film"
Ah, so it's not JUST the 'seeking meaning in life' that bothers you, but the PLACE where others choose to do this. Gee-ez! You want to dictate the most tiny aspects of people's lives, if you really are bothered by other people trying to find meaning in a very specific places where you don't want them to find anything.
Are you saying they shouldn't try, or that there is no meaning there, so it's useless, or... just that you want to dictate every aspect of every human being's life, and until you do, you are not going to be satisfied?
Yes, it's definitely you - so far, you have revealed yourself to be a wannabe-dictator..
"Personally, I get a blast out of each time I visit that board."
You get a "blast" out of "time". Talk about delusions!
Do you get a 'blast' because you get to spread your own delusions, so you feel right at home with the 'delusional nerds' that you speak of (that no one else seems to see), or do you get a 'blast' because you get to insult people and try to feel you are somehow superior to them, although, you are clearly at least as delusional as these 'nerds' you speak of - and probably more?
"It's so hilarious to cherish non-sense and to quest sense in the completly senseless."
Then you must really love yourself and your posts, because what you typed here, doesn't make ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER. So, congratulations, you live in hilarious-heaven, having a non-sense [sic]-factory with you wherever you go.
You must be the happiest individual on this planet.
"Any other movie that even comes close to this insane vacuity?"
And now we're back to asking about 'other movies'. If you love this movie's board so much, and feel important to declare to the world how much joy you get from visiting it, then why even try to find other movies? Why not just keep coming to this board and get your 'blast' from it every time? Or is this 'blast' not enough for you, and you want more 'blasts' from other movies' boards?
Why not just ask if there are other boards that can give you 'blasts', while you are at it?
You know, just because you use a word like 'vacuity', doesn't mean no one noticed your grammar mistakes and delusional nature of your post.
Also, don't YOU also have too much time on YOUR hands for being able to write this kind of delusional, nerdy post that makes no sense and only insults others?
As I have shown by replying to your post, it's very possible to find 'deeper sense' out of stupidity, and 'vacuity', where it seemingly doesn't exist. You just have to be meticulous in your excavation.
(Ooh, I used two 'big words', so I must be now relinguished from any typos, errors or grammatical mistakes I might have made, right?)
I mean, if people can find 'deep sense' in YOUR 'vacuous' and completely senseless post, then why shouldn't they be able to find it practically anywhere..?
This implies that you have some kind of delusion about boards. You see, boards are inanimate, almost non-real things, that only exist on top of complex layers of software that needs networked computers to be usable.
Such an artificial human creation that's almost 'unreal' in the sense, that it doesn't truly exist in the real world with humans and touchable objects, certainly does not have the capability to be 'delusional', as it has no soul, nor does it have any kind of life of its own. As a simplified metaphor, it's like paper, where people can write. Now, paper may retain some of the spirit of the tree that it was cut from - but a board is just cold, typed code - it's just a computer program, basically.
There are of course movies that make ridiculous claims that computer programs could somehow (how?) have souls, but a soul is incarnated into the physical, not the other way around (soul exists with or without any physical substance - let alone 'electronic non-substance').
So if you truly think, as your question shows that you do, that boards are capable of delusions, then YOU are indeed the one that should be called 'delusional'.
Only delusional people think boards have the capability for having delusions.
"..or is there no other movie, over the top or not, cheesy or not, that attracts that many delusional nerds with to much time on their hands to do entire conversations movie-quote style or to try to find some deeper sense in the most dead-plain lines of a film?"
Wow, you have really bad english skills. Mine are not perfect either, I mess up the articles (it's sometimes hard to know which illogical small word must be used between the bigger words - like, 'in' instead of 'on', and so on), and my vocabulary could be bigger, but this quote really has mistakes I can't see myself doing.
First of all, it's a run-on sentence that doesn't make clear as to what the question actually is. So you want to know if there are other movies .. that attract THAT many (do you mean 'AS many'? Otherwise, what is this 'THAT' that you are referring to? It's bad english in any case. Maybe if you used the word 'THIS' instead, it might make more sense) nerds .. with "to much" (what does this mean? Do you mean 'TOO much'? You don't even know the difference between 'to' and 'too', and you think you are fit to criticize others?) time on their hands.. to DO 'entire conversations' (how do you 'DO' a conversation? Are you some kind of literary perv that goes around stalking innocent conversations and then 'DOES' them?).. 'movie-quote style' (What does this even mean?) OR try to find some deeper sense (don't you mean 'deeper MEANING'?) .. 'the most dead-plain' (what is 'dead-plain' exactly? I couldn't find this kind of reference) lines of a film ('of a film'? Don't you mean "IN a film"? Otherwise, don't you mean "of THIS film"? Why even use 'film', instead of 'movie' (movies can be watched completely digitally these days, no film is required)?
"Is there no other movie"?
Hmm.. well, it's kind of hard to tell without looking through every movie. But your convoluted and overly-complex way of asking if there's another BOARD, makes it seem that you are asking about a MOVIE. I don't have an answer, but let's check out further.
'Delusional nerd' - so it wouldn't be so bad, if they weren't nerds? If they were delusional alpha thugs, or delusional biker gang members, you'd have no problem with it? Why do you only want to know about nerds?
Or do you just want to insult people by calling them nerds? This tells more about you than anyone else, so yes, it's just you, again.
"Cheesy or not, over the top or not"
This is completely unnecessary, because with such a wide scope, EVERY movie fits into this description. You basically nullify what you are saying with the 'or nots'. Was it really necessary to use this kind of nullification twice in a row? Wasn't your question long and complicated enough, so you felt the urge to add something completely useless?
If you MUST say something like this, why not just say something like "no limitations as to the style" or "any movie will do"? Or if the 'or not'-game is what you want to play, why leave it at that? Why not pick more things from this movie, and then just add 'or not' to them?
"Made in the eighties or not, funny or not, one-liner-filled or not, comedic or not, Starring Arnie or not" and so on?
I assume you meant 'too', when you said 'to much time on their hands', so I'll just go with that.
"Too much time on their hands"
Now, how can anyone have more time than someone else? Another one of your delusions?
Time does not exist on the hands anyway, it exists everywhere (or possibly, nowhere) simultaneously. The white-coated self-proclaimed 'professionals' here call it 'the fourth dimension' (when it clearly isn't a dimension, but something else). We could have a 'deep and meaningful' discussion about what time is (see, how this movie DOES inspire 'depth' and 'meaning' (although you said 'sense', which makes no sense) that can be utilized for interesting conversations), but maybe some other time.
Let's say you are using that terminology idiot.. uhm.. idiomatically. So you mean they don't have 'enough to do', so they have free time to come to IMDb and use their freedom of speech to find meaningful things from where you don't want them to find it.
First of all, that makes you quite a control freak; you want to control where 'deep sense' [sic] can, should, and is allowed to be find, and where it isn't. People shouldn't just freely find it anywhere they want! Only strictly controlled places that YOU dictate! Right?
Second of all, what's "too much time" anyway? Writing a post doesn't take that long, maybe ten minutes to an hour. Are you saying 'delusional nerds' (a pretty loosely defined group that should be more clearly explained) shouldn't have ten minutes to an hour of free time, EVER, in their life?
So in your opinion, people should be treating this planet like a work camp, where these slaves (that you choose from your self-defined group of 'delusional nerds', who have not done anything bad to you) just work themselves to death with practically no free time whatsoever? Are you perhaps the 'Dear Leader' of North Korea?
Third of all, WHO gets to say who has 'too much' time, and who has 'the proper amount of time', and who has 'too little time' "on their hands"? And with what grounds does this individual (YOU?) have this authority? HOW can anyone have this kind of authority over another human being without their consent, since every human being has unalienable (not 'inalienable') rights from the second they're incarnated until the second they have left the physical body? (and of course, also inbetween incarnations)
"To do entire conversations movie-quote style"
Shouldn't that be, 'to HAVE' conversations', not 'to DO' conversations? Also, 'entire conversations' is bad, but what if they had 80% conversations? What if they had only 50% conversations?
Would that be OK? How do you measure whether a conversation is 'entire conversation', or just 'partial'?
Furthermore, shouldn't that be "'movie quote'-style" - I mean, isn't your hyphen in the long place?
What's wrong with conversations? Don't you find they enlighten people, make them think more, and thus better themselves as human beings?
I am not sure what you mean by 'movie quote-style' (or movie-quote style, if you prefer) - so people have fun with stupidity, by reciting silly quotes from a silly movie, and manage to actually have conversations with it? I don't really get that sport either, but I wouldn't voice my criticism against it - after all, free speech means you are free to say stupid things.
If they really don't have anything to say from the depths of their own selves, at least they can quote a movie.
And hey, if you can "do" "entire" conversations that way, isn't that kind of amazing?
"to try to find some deeper sense"
What's wrong with the ongoing research to try to acquire something more meaningful? Are you against 'deeper sense', and only want 'superficial meaninglessness' in your life?
Even so, why would you be against other people trying to find meaning from things? Perhaps there IS meaning to everything, but we are still too blind to see it all?
You want to also deny this, completely harmless activity that might bring peace to someone's soul, who might otherwise commit a suicide, from people? So you actually want to rise the number of people who kill themselves? That's horrible!
"in the most dead-plain lines of a film"
Ah, so it's not JUST the 'seeking meaning in life' that bothers you, but the PLACE where others choose to do this. Gee-ez! You want to dictate the most tiny aspects of people's lives, if you really are bothered by other people trying to find meaning in a very specific places where you don't want them to find anything.
Are you saying they shouldn't try, or that there is no meaning there, so it's useless, or... just that you want to dictate every aspect of every human being's life, and until you do, you are not going to be satisfied?
Yes, it's definitely you - so far, you have revealed yourself to be a wannabe-dictator..
"Personally, I get a blast out of each time I visit that board."
You get a "blast" out of "time". Talk about delusions!
Do you get a 'blast' because you get to spread your own delusions, so you feel right at home with the 'delusional nerds' that you speak of (that no one else seems to see), or do you get a 'blast' because you get to insult people and try to feel you are somehow superior to them, although, you are clearly at least as delusional as these 'nerds' you speak of - and probably more?
"It's so hilarious to cherish non-sense and to quest sense in the completly senseless."
Then you must really love yourself and your posts, because what you typed here, doesn't make ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER. So, congratulations, you live in hilarious-heaven, having a non-sense [sic]-factory with you wherever you go.
You must be the happiest individual on this planet.
"Any other movie that even comes close to this insane vacuity?"
And now we're back to asking about 'other movies'. If you love this movie's board so much, and feel important to declare to the world how much joy you get from visiting it, then why even try to find other movies? Why not just keep coming to this board and get your 'blast' from it every time? Or is this 'blast' not enough for you, and you want more 'blasts' from other movies' boards?
Why not just ask if there are other boards that can give you 'blasts', while you are at it?
You know, just because you use a word like 'vacuity', doesn't mean no one noticed your grammar mistakes and delusional nature of your post.
Also, don't YOU also have too much time on YOUR hands for being able to write this kind of delusional, nerdy post that makes no sense and only insults others?
As I have shown by replying to your post, it's very possible to find 'deeper sense' out of stupidity, and 'vacuity', where it seemingly doesn't exist. You just have to be meticulous in your excavation.
(Ooh, I used two 'big words', so I must be now relinguished from any typos, errors or grammatical mistakes I might have made, right?)
I mean, if people can find 'deep sense' in YOUR 'vacuous' and completely senseless post, then why shouldn't they be able to find it practically anywhere..?