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Disney need to get over themselves...

posted 11 years ago by molly_hartley
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...And dig out all the parts of the movie that were cut, place them back in and give it a re-release (maybe even give it to another company to release it for them, if it is too dark).

That's what a lot of avid Disney fans want, but now Disney is more interested in piling in money off little kiddies parents instead of looking out for their fans take on the situation.

Trust me on this one; it could be a good idea, for big fans of the darker animated movies.

[–] Vega_Lyra 11 years ago

I agree, but they barely spend any money on anything but their legacy titles (and the new films). What I mean is that if it isn't Snow White, Cinderella, etc. Disney spends less than a dime on them.

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[–] molly_hartley 11 years ago

Exactly! It annoys me a lot, I am a really big Disney fan but even I noticed everything is either new movies or the really successful classics, as you said, and it angers me that there's a lot more than those classics to be explored. We could have a lot of merchandise too, as well as a decent re-release!

[–] Icelander67 11 years ago

I second this motion - whoever the genius was that decided that this film was too _long_ is nothing short of a bona fide idiot!

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[–] molly_hartley 11 years ago

Great! Someone else who agrees. They focus way too much on all the successful movies and leave out the lesser ones. It's really bad, because even though they weren't successful it doesn't mean that they shouldn't have a fanbase... they are still in the Disney Classics range and I know for some people this is their favourite classic. Hm, it's so biased now. They don't really seem to care - it's all about entertaining the little children with new movies and overpriced merchandise. *sigh*.

[–] Mick1994 11 years ago

Hell even their classics like "The Sword in the Stone", "Mickey's Christmas Carol", and "The Colour of Money". I hear they've gotten some of the worst Blu-ray transfers around. And there's no excuse for this, look at their lesser classics like "The Great Mouse Detective" and "Robin Hood" they got really good transfers, Hell even the "The Lion King" sequels got Diamond quality transfers.

[–] LiveTogetherDialAPhone 11 years ago

If there's ever a time for Disney to re-release this one, it's now, to capitalize on the popularity of Game of Thrones and The Hobbit.

[–] molly_hartley 11 years ago

This is the best explaination, it would definitely be successful, even if they just tried to advertise it more!

[–] LiveTogetherDialAPhone 11 years ago

If there's ever a time for Disney to re-release this one, it's now, to capitalize on the popularity of Game of Thrones and The Hobbit.

[–] ZakkWyldeMyLittlePony 11 years ago

I know. Disney's been motivated by greed for too long. Would be cool to see this movie get a Blu-Ray release with previously unseen features. Like what had to be cut to avoid a PG-13 or R rating. Sadly, that will never happen.

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[–] Margie_Augilera 11 years ago

The only way that would ever happen would be if someone else were to produce a reboot of The Prydain Chronicles.

[–] Blueghost 11 years ago

by molly_hartley » Sun Jul 28 2013 07:37:07
IMDb member since December 2011
...And dig out all the parts of the movie that were cut, place them back in and give it a re-release (maybe even give it to another company to release it for them, if it is too dark).

That's what a lot of avid Disney fans want, but now Disney is more interested in piling in money off little kiddies parents instead of looking out for their fans take on the situation.

Trust me on this one; it could be a good idea, for big fans of the darker animated movies.

Whatever lady.

[–] MagusTruthseeker 10 years ago

Whatever lady.

Not sure what your problem is with the OP's point about the sanitizing of the entire history of Disney film-making. Going back and completely altering titles from the 30s, 40s, and beyond just to portray the image that they have always been 100% forward-thinkers of the 21st Century is frankly rather insulting to many people, not the least of which are the artists and producers of those films.

Cinema is an art medium just like any other. It tells the cultural history of its society through how it is produced and what is produced. Should someone be carving a loin cloth out of marble to hang on David, after all, such open nudity might possibly scar an innocent child of 5 to death (according to the conservatives calling for Disney to modify its films).

There is absolutely a rather large and avid market to be had if Disney were to go back, clean up (as in physically clean, not censor) and remaster all of their films from the beginning to present and show them in all their originally intended glory. They could even put a recorded message hosted by one of their most-respected executives (or even the President of Disney) explaining the great cultural significance to the new Disney Archives series of Blu-rays, during which viewers are warned that some material might be considered offensive in this day and age.

A series done like that would fly off the shelves at a pace that would be staggering. They would fly off even faster if it was announced that they would be released over a 10-year period, at the end of which they would all be going back into the vault.

Check the conversations going on around nearly any Disney animated classic, including Song of the South and Fantasia and you'll find that this is precisely what the people are asking for.

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[–] molly_hartley 10 years ago

This is brilliant! Thank you for sharing!

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[–] molly_hartley 10 years ago

Sure thing, I've already signed it!

[–] sunrise_md2000 9 years ago

I'm going to have to disagree.

This is not a good film. Not trying to insult anyone here; you can think Twinkies are awesome and delicious but that doesn't make them a high-quality food. By the same logic, this film has its fans, and there are some beautiful moments and groudbreaking animation, but the fact remains it is an abysmally-crafted movie on several levels. Disney knows this, which is why they generally try to pretend it doesn't exist.

I have seen a few of the deleted scenes and they add nothing but more pain to an already painful viewing experience. Also, just from a practical standpoint, many of the scenes cut from animated films are not even finished scenes. Even if they wanted to do a longer cut, they'd have to pay in-betweeners and clean-up artists and colorists to finish those scenes before they could insert them back in. The only animated film they have ever done that with is Beauty and the Beast, with the re-insertion of the "Human Again" musical number in the special edition. But B&tB was a wildly successful film and they could afford it. Disney is a company with a bottom line to meet and they are not going to waste money re-editing a film that was their one of their biggest financial failures to date. You can call them "greedy" for that if you want but it would be like pouring money into building a mansion in the ghetto.

If Disney really wanted to do something great with this material, they could re-visit the original book series it was based upon, and do a series of live-action films that are true to the source. With their current trend of remaking animated classics into live action films, maybe we'll see them consider it. But I'm not holding my breath.